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That's not what the word means (alt-title crowner): Napier get usage counts

 26 ccoa, Wed, 2nd May '12 6:34:57 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
We have a consensus to rename here, let's see some alt names suggestions. Otherwise, this thread needs to be closed to make way for an active TRS.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 27 Michael, Wed, 2nd May '12 8:11:20 AM Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
So that's what this does
Conman In Marks Clothing?
Balance - the original sixth sense.
 28 Xtifr, Thu, 3rd May '12 3:56:03 AM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Fake Mark or Fakeout Mark?
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 29 Spark 9, Thu, 3rd May '12 3:58:22 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
[up] That's good.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
According to this page, a similar existing term is:

Rube Act: A script for short-con games in which the inside man plays the part of a na´ve country bumpkin, of whom the sucker and the outside man conspire to take advantage. Use in three-card monte credited to Canada Bill Jones. From the ancient dodge from 15th century Spain known as "playing the peasant."

Though it might be confusing to people who are unfamiliar with the term.

edited 3rd May '12 8:09:34 AM by Aquillion

 31 Meta Four, Sun, 6th May '12 10:31:10 AM from the house of bread and battle
AXTUCE MUN AXTE INCAL
Crowner swapped.
 32 Xtifr, Sun, 6th May '12 7:48:42 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
"Rube" is a reasonably well-known term, and if you know the term, Rube Act seems straightforward enough. I can get behind that.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 33 Spark 9, Wed, 30th May '12 4:04:24 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
Well, it's pre-existing in an obscure slang that most people don't know, which is exactly the same problem the name "Napier" had.

According to the dictionary, a "rube" is a yokel. That's unrelated to the trope.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
 34 Septimus Heap, Wed, 30th May '12 5:00:10 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
[up]It's Rube Act, not Rube. And at least from Google I do find the term easily.

 35 ccoa, Mon, 4th Jun '12 8:03:09 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Bumping for votes.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 36 32 Footsteps, Mon, 4th Jun '12 8:04:34 AM from Just north of Arkham Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
It probably doesn't help that I upvoted all of them, huh? This is one of those crowners where I'd like to see each term at least become a redirect.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
 37 Septimus Heap, Tue, 3rd Jul '12 8:53:37 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Another vote bump.

 38 Spark 9, Tue, 3rd Jul '12 9:01:02 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
Okay, so the issue with "napier" is that it's a slang term that most people haven't heard of, and we're about to replace it by "rube act" which is also a slang term that most people haven't heard of. That strikes me as rather pointless. Perhaps we should get some better alternatives on the crowner.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
 39 Xtifr, Tue, 3rd Jul '12 11:20:23 AM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
[up]Are you kidding? I see "rube" all the time! Maybe you're just not a fan of caper stories. Phrases like, "don't be a rube, it's a sucker bet!" or "to pull this off, we're going to need to find a rube" don't ring any bells? Because they certainly do to me.

"Napier", on the other hand, is a term I've never heard (except in the name of the mathematician, John Napier, the discoverer of logarithms).

(I'm not saying we need to use "rube"—I'm just shocked to hear someone claim it's obscure.)
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 40 Spark 9, Tue, 3rd Jul '12 4:26:41 PM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
[up] I'm probably not from your culture, country/state, or age group.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
Have heard "rube" a million times, "napier" never.

Added "shill", who usually (but not always) pretends to be a bystander, in a con game.

edited 3rd Jul '12 4:30:22 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel.
Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Shill is just wrong. A shill shows enthusiasm for the bait. This guy is the bait.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
 43 ccoa, Fri, 13th Jul '12 6:39:03 AM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
Calling crowner in favor of Conman In Marks Clothing
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 44 Septimus Heap, Fri, 13th Jul '12 6:52:32 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Done, but with the low wick and example count, I tihnk further action is needed.

 45 Xtifr, Fri, 13th Jul '12 12:38:52 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Maybe run it through YKTTW without cutting, just to gather examples.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 46 Septimus Heap, Fri, 13th Jul '12 12:40:44 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
I thought of that, but I kinda suck at YKTTW.

 47 ccoa, Fri, 31st Aug '12 12:04:43 PM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Is anything else going to be done, or can we call this soup?
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 48 Xtifr, Fri, 31st Aug '12 5:14:16 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Needs some indexes and, *sigh*, I'll go ahead and run it through YKTTW. Two examples really just doesn't cut it.

ETA: the description also needs work, as the current description refers to the old name, and substituting the new name doesn't really fit in context. I'll bang it around before going to YKTTW.

ETA x2: the YKTTW is here. (There, that wasn't so hard, was it?) :)

edited 31st Aug '12 5:32:14 PM by Xtifr

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 49 Xtifr, Sat, 8th Sep '12 2:08:57 AM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Eddie decided to unilaterally rename the trope to Fake Mark, ignoring the crowner. Which, I suppose, is his prerogative, but I think Fake Mark is a terrible choice. It could mean anything. It could be a rub-on tattoo. He is the boss, so if he really insists, then that's the way it'll be, but I'd love to hear his arguments for the name. I think Fake Mark is about as far from clarity as you can get and still make sense.

(He also discarded the YKTTW, but I think that was an honest mistake. He seemed to think it was a duplicate, rather than an attempt to get more than two examples.)

edited 8th Sep '12 2:09:51 AM by Xtifr

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 50 Septimus Heap, Sat, 8th Sep '12 2:11:32 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
^I think the name choice was because current was too long and and second-best too obscure.

I think you can just PM about the YKTTW.

Alternative Titles: Napier
6th May '12 7:22:58 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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