Suits.

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Best ending ever.

....given that you are saying this, it makes me fear for today's episode.

Watching it now.

I hope we find out Jack's secret. He's just like Mike, with not graduating law school.

Well..fuck.

The bad news about this ending is probably that they have to double down on the lying to prevent everyone getting jailed/crashing to burn, forcing Mike to ignore the Character Development of this episode.

Or maybe I'm just cynic.

Part 2 of Season 5 will reveal these cops are fake sent by Trevor for a surprise bachelor party. Anyway, I don't think the arrest actually relates to whole being a fake lawyer thing. The key words during the arrest were "conspiracy to commit fraud". Anyway, I don't care what anyone says, even if it's a misdirect (minus Trevor joke), I think tossing this in out of no where is really fresh.

That aside, another thing I really did like in this episode was Jessica actually and how well it conveyed that she's Married to the Job.

edited 27th Aug '15 7:16:21 AM by Prime_of_Perfection

I admit, the arrest might be a fake out (He's not being arrested for being a fake lawyer, but some other Fraud based crime that he's innocent of), but unless they work quickly, they will discover he never went to Harvard, and he'll be screwed, and so will everyone else at the firm, and with Hardman coming after them, this couldn't have happened at a worst time.

And from what I'm hearing now around, but trying to find the interview myself, confirmation from the show's creator this isn't a cop out or a misdirect.

edited 1st Sep '15 12:41:57 PM by Prime_of_Perfection

Would they have to prove what he's done to move the charge up from Conspiracy to commit fraud to just fraud itself? I was thinking they'd have charged him with fraud if they were arresting him directly for not going to law school, but maybe not?

Either way, we have to wait til January to find out, because this was the mid-season finale and they won't be back until then.

I'd assume as much really, though they have to have enough to go on it now. I did look a bit into it now and can confirm it deals with Mike being a fraud for sure. The first episode back is going to be called Blowback, will revolve around the problems his arrest causes and a great deal of fallout from this. The episodes that follow will also touch on whoever turned Mike in.

If I had to guess, someone went to the police and accused him of committing fraud, but they don't have all the evidence yet and were just detaining him for the time being or something. You'd think they'd already have evidence if he's accused because fraud investigation requires you to gather more concrete info to back stuff first.

Maybe Hardman or someone else got him put away on trumped up charges, unaware of how close they were to the truth.

Whatever the case, there's no way Mike won't be found out. They are gonna check him out, and find the truth.

Now, I haven't heard about this being the last season, so if the show keeps going after this, what exactly do they got planned here.

Either Mike not being there anymore, or the law firm somehow pulling off a miracle and getting him acquitted and declared an actual lawyer. I mean, the man HAS done a lot for people through his work at the firm. He's shown that he COULD be a lawyer. He just isn't one due to the technicality of not having passed the Bar.

Didn't he say back near the very beginning of the series that he has passed the Bar?

He took the Bar Exam on a bet, and passed it, according to the Suits wiki page on him.

http://suits.wikia.com/wiki/Mike_Ross

"At one point, Mike also took the bar exam for a bet and passed."

Mike has to go back to College and finish his degree to be allowed to work as lawyer.

His spanish teacher may be a lunatic.

Then why exactly was this a problem? The whole Harvard thing? Please. Just drop the damn company requirement and make it work. No need for fraud.

Yeah, there's an interesting point about that. It would affect EVERY lawyer that Pearson Hardman has ever employed under that rule. And lawyers are litigious. Very litigious if they're the ones being screwed over.

The main problem, legally, is that people did business with Mike under the assumption he was a lawyer.

Meaning, among other things, he was bound (legally) by client confidentiality.

If his fraudness gets out to the wider world, PSL is in for a possible lawsuit from *every* client that felt screwed over or misrepresented by Mike.

Best case (presuming that firing him would not be available plot-wise) would be if PSL manages to I. settle confidentially about the criminal charge II. convince the BAR to stay silent while Mike gets his law degree and then III. Have the partners make a single case exception due to previous good working conduct like they did with Rachel.

Other lawyers really wouldn't have a leg to stand on, given that Rachel got the Harvard Rule waived, because its based on *shown* expertise already in place. The Harvard rule was thus not arbitrarily waived (and I am pretty sure Louis has a bylaw for that very rare exception)

The greatest arc ever continues.

Hang every last one of them. This is great.

Somehow I doubt any of them will hang. Unless it's Jack. Because he seems to be bucking for designated scapegoat here. Harvey will beat the system, because he's Harvey. And the others will ride his coattails to victory.

Yeah. I know that, but I'm hoping it's pretty pyrric.

I mean, Mike is outed. Even if he somehow gets out of this alive, there's no way he can try and be a lawyer after botching things this bad, especially since so many people found him out.

Harvey has burned plenty of bridges keeping this secret (though the stuff with Scottie had nothing to do with Mike mostly).

Rachel's dad knows what Jessica did, and I'm sure he'll come after her for that.

Things will not be the same for Pearson Hardman Spectre whatever the fuck they are calling themselves now.

I just want Mike to take more verbal beatdowns, until he's laying on the ground a mess. I don't know when, but I really started to dislike him at some point.

They overplayed the premise. It was a ticking timebomb and now they've written themselves into a corner. But then, they tend to do that over at USA Network. You had Burn Notice, where the only way out for the leading couple was to fake their deaths in order to escape. Same thing with White Collar, though that was a combination of trust issues and Neal's personality not really allowing any other way out. Even if this one doesn't go the same exact way, Mike's probably going to have to pull some serious legal gymnastics to give himself a satisfying ending. Hopefully involving him actually going back to school and making it real this time.

You folks think that this could be the lead up to the end of the series as well then?

Because if so, I wouldn't be at all surprised.

IIRC they're already greenlit for at least one more season. I don't think this is the direct lead-up though what that one more season becomes is up in the air. White Collar had a last "season" of only six episodes.

Well, quite a few eps have gone by, but now lets see how Mike gets out of this.

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He doesn't. Or more accurately, he doesn't even bother trying.

I hate this one so fucking much right now. And IMDB has two episodes tagged for season six so far. Not sure if they'll add more or if the final season's just a two-parter to fix everything.

edited 3rd Mar '16 7:13:12 AM by Journeyman