Decemberist
Well, while not right, I can see why the US would lay claim to parts of the internet. It did start as US Military project, after all.
I think this is bull, merely because I don't think this is worth an extradition over.
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It's about time we cancelled our extradition treaty with the US.
Actually, we should end all our treaties with them. They just take the piss.
edited 21st Jan '12 9:40:57 AM by InverurieJones
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Sneering Imperialist
What frustrates me is that we should have leverage, but the government is content to just take it up the arse in the name of preserving the "special relationship".
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'Special Relationship' my arse. There never was any 'Special Relationship'.
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Sneering Imperialist
Hence the inverted commas.
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Considering this, it's not like the UK is handing over people to the US blindly. Because there is precedence for not extraditing people, I have a feeling this means that the UK government agrees with it.
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Guys, an unfair extradition treaty is grounds to break the extradition treaty.
It is not grounds to break off all agreements with the US.
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Sneering Imperialist
It is at least grounds for re-evaluation.
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Decemberist
Well, I think Cats quote there at least proves that the US attempts to be cooperative.
I think the treaty would stand to be totally rewritten to be fair to Britain, though.
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My quote actually, Cats quoted me!
But yes, a rewrite of the treaty is definitely in order here. If I could be bothered, I'd look at the denied cases to try and find out what they were.
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So far the special relationship seems to result in England getting specially buggered. Time for a rewrite.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Sneering Imperialist
At the risk of accusations of pedantry, England =/= Britain or the United Kingdom. The distinction is necessary as the treaties (and the general relationship with the United States) are relevant to the United Kingdom as a whole not England in particular.
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Well, the whole British Nuclear Program was in responce to the Americans pissing us off. Here's the story from The Other Wiki:
The Americans did not share Attlee's view, however. Manhattan Project head Leslie Groves had excluded British scientists from participating in the manufacturing of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, contrary to the intentions of his government for close cooperation, for security reasons. Postwar spy scandals in both countries increased American concerns over atomic secrecy. More importantly, Truman hoped to establish international control over atomic weapons, and sharing information with even a close ally like Britain might have made such controls impossible. Nonetheless, the Americans' refusal to share information, formalized by the Mc Mahon Act of 1946 restricting foreign access to US nuclear technology, shocked and disappointed the British.
The United Kingdom started independently developing nuclear weapons again shortly after the war. Attlee set up a cabinet sub-committee, the Gen 75 Committee (GEN.75) (known informally as the "Atomic Bomb Committee"), to examine the feasibility as early as 29 August 1945. The Chief of the Air Staff Arthur Tedder officially requested an atomic weapon in August 1946, but work on a British equivalent to the vast American facilities at Hanford, Washington and Oak Ridge, Tennessee began in February 1946. American refusal to continue nuclear cooperation (except in certain non weapons-related areas in exchange for uranium from the British-controlled supply in the Belgian Congo) only affected the amount of cooperation the British expected to receive, for the government had decided that atomic weapons were vital to the nation regardless of cost:
However, there was one meeting that sealed it:
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Some parts of the Internet domains should be held by an international treaty, not the US.
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