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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1: Jan 18th 2012 at 11:54:45 AM

This was originally a trope for having a woman naked from the waist up but only showing her from behind as a sort of titillation and censorship move.

Then, in October someone added a line for a completely different trope about backless dresses, and the trope has been decaying since.

I propose we rename this trope to stop the misuse, remove the added line, and clean it up. Backless Dress can be split into it's own YKTTW.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Jan 18th 2012 at 11:58:45 AM

And since this is a Sub-Trope of Sexy Discretion Shot (if I'm not mistaken), the name should help reflect that.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#3: Jan 18th 2012 at 12:01:01 PM

[up] You are mistaken. That's a trope for not showing people having sex.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#4: Jan 18th 2012 at 12:05:31 PM

Discretion Shot is the wider supertrope/index, although in this case it's prolly more like some sort of Censorship Tropes.

Anyway, yeah, there's prolly a trope about backless dresses. Does that include strapless gowns as well? I don't know much about dresses, but they seem like they're treated similarly in fiction.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Jan 18th 2012 at 12:06:49 PM

"You are mistaken. That's a trope for not showing people having sex."

Great. That trope also has a name that makes it seem broader than it is. Okay, so this is a Sister Trope (as in something sexual is hinted at but not actually shown).

"Anyway, yeah, there's prolly a trope about backless dresses. Does that include strapless gowns as well? I don't know much about dresses, but they seem like they're treated similarly in fiction."

Yeah, there has to be some minimum amount of skin shown. Simply being strapless is not enough if the dress still covers a lot of the torso. Plus a halter top has straps, but they are done in a way that still shows all of the back.

edited 18th Jan '12 12:08:29 PM by DragonQuestZ

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Osmium from Germany Since: Dec, 2010
#6: Jan 18th 2012 at 12:07:24 PM

Then, in October someone added a line for a completely different trope about backless dresses, and the trope has been decaying since.

No, in October someone changed the line about backless dresses, but I didn't found an entry in the edit history of someone adding the line.

edited 18th Jan '12 12:07:54 PM by Osmium

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#7: Jan 18th 2012 at 12:09:07 PM

[up]This is still effectively two tropes, since a backless dress means the front is still covered up, which is not this trope.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#8: Jan 18th 2012 at 12:09:50 PM

This is a sister trope to Dress Hits Floor. It's actually more about nudity than sex, really. I'd say it's more closely related to tropes like Scenery Censor and Modesty Towel.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#9: Jan 18th 2012 at 12:49:40 PM

Topless Backside Shot?

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#11: Jan 18th 2012 at 1:10:23 PM

Well "Backside" does usually refer to the ass, not the back.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower Since: Oct, 2009
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#12: Jan 18th 2012 at 1:12:57 PM

Toplessness from the Back - boring but covers everything.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#13: Jan 18th 2012 at 1:22:12 PM

I say "shot" should be in the name, since that is a specific shot to show toplessness without showing the actual breasts.

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#14: Jan 18th 2012 at 2:01:13 PM

The "backless dress trope" sounds related to the Maximum Cleavage trope we were discussing just a few days ago.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#15: Jan 20th 2012 at 9:39:38 AM

[up]In that it shows some skin, yes. Those would go under Partial Nudity Tropes, I guess.

edited 20th Jan '12 9:51:25 AM by DragonQuestZ

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lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower Since: Oct, 2009
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#16: Jan 30th 2012 at 4:11:54 PM

Bump. Still needs a new name: Topless Discretion Shot? And what do we do with backless dresses (since they don't belong here)?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#17: Jan 30th 2012 at 4:16:09 PM

Topless Discretion Shot sounds good. I think the backless dress is it's own costuming trope. It's just not this dress. Backless Dress might work.

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#18: Jan 30th 2012 at 6:38:27 PM

Topless Discretion Shot covers a lot more than what this trope implies. This is just for when we "know" a character is naked because her naked back is to the camera and she's not wearing a bra, right?

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#19: Jan 30th 2012 at 6:40:54 PM

Yes, that's the trope.

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#20: Jan 30th 2012 at 6:44:13 PM

I think the name is quite good I think you are meaning this kind of shot right? (very minor content warning.)

edited 30th Jan '12 9:32:38 PM by Raso

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#21: Jan 30th 2012 at 6:51:05 PM

Right, but the name is broad. It covers the trope, but it also covers a lot of other things.

It's only a matter of time before people start Sink Holing it for the wrong reasons.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#22: Jan 30th 2012 at 7:01:52 PM

[up][up] Yes, that's the shot.

[up] True, it is too broad. We need one that sounds like this trope.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#23: Jan 30th 2012 at 7:07:32 PM

Bare Back Discretion Shot Boring, but clear and specific.

edited 30th Jan '12 7:08:32 PM by Madrugada

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#24: Jan 30th 2012 at 7:08:20 PM

That sounds a bit like a shot that's hiding a bare back.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#25: Jan 31st 2012 at 3:28:50 PM

[up] I agree. This is showing the back to avoid showing the now bare breasts.

And on that note, would this mean this trope falls under Keep Abreast Of This Index?

As for the outfit, does it have to be a dress, or any top or full body outfit clearly cut to show as much of the bad as possible.

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SingleProposition: SexyBack
3rd Mar '12 4:32:41 PM

Crown Description:

Sexy Back is being misused for "backs which are sexy". It is actually about female toplessness, seen only from the back.

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