TV Tropes Org

Forums

search forum titles
google site search
Total posts: [87]
1
 2  3 4

Many of the examples confuse it for another trope (New crowner 4/4/12): Adult Child get usage counts

 1 Oreochan, Sun, 15th Jan '12 3:59:34 PM from Pennsylvania
I thought until now that Adult Child was simply adults acting like children. I also had a hard time finding a distinction between it and Man Child until I read the pages closely and found the difference:

  • Man Child is an adult that acts like a child.

  • Adult Child is about adults acting more like children because they hang around them a lot.

Many, many of Adult Child's wicks and examples confuse it for Man Child and many of the examples don't even interact with children much. The laconic and playing with for Adult Child also mistake it for Man Child. Since Adult Child has 1000+ wicks I'm not sure a rename will be in order, but something has to be done.

edited 1st Apr '12 1:05:20 AM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Rabid Fujoshi
The names of these do always confuse me.
SPATULA, Supporters of Page Altering To Urgently Lead to Amelioration (supports not going through TRS for tweaks and minor improvements.)
 3 Flyboy, Sun, 15th Jan '12 6:15:03 PM from the United States
Decemberist
I'm not entirely sure these need to be two tropes. If they do, then Adult Child probably needs a rename/rework...
"Shit, our candidate is a psychopath. Better replace him with Newt Gingrich."
Rabid Fujoshi
Man Child is more immature and irresponsible, Adult Child is more naive and innocent.
SPATULA, Supporters of Page Altering To Urgently Lead to Amelioration (supports not going through TRS for tweaks and minor improvements.)
 5 Oreochan, Sun, 15th Jan '12 6:33:50 PM from Pennsylvania
Also Man Child are childish from the start, they barely mature and are usually very dependent on other people. Adult Child does act mature on occasions when they need to. As for a rename, Man Child is a preexisting term, I don't know if "Adult Child" already existed before we cataloged it. Both Adult Child and Man Child's names sound like they are about the same thing, which causes confusion.

edited 15th Jan '12 7:30:11 PM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Rabid Fujoshi
I don't think "Adult Child" is an existing term, I think changing that one would be a good idea.
SPATULA, Supporters of Page Altering To Urgently Lead to Amelioration (supports not going through TRS for tweaks and minor improvements.)
 7 Oreochan, Sun, 15th Jan '12 7:39:26 PM from Pennsylvania
Yeah, I don't think it preexisted and means the same that it does here, before we made a page for it either. I did a search for it on google and all people seem to use it for is "child who is now an adult".
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
 8 shimaspawn, Sun, 15th Jan '12 7:42:54 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
[up] That is what the phrase normally means. A parent of an adult child is a parent whose children are now adults and no longer children.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
I thought it meant a child who acted like an adult. This either needs a rename or to be merged with Man Child with maybe internal subtropes for the distinction between the two.

 10 Oreochan, Sun, 15th Jan '12 8:10:17 PM from Pennsylvania
[up] That's Wise Beyond Their Years, which Adult Child says to not confuse it with, (which is still easy to do). I can't shake the feeling that they are different enough to keep separate. However, rename might be in order given that it will be used for its actual definition, what Man Child is and being Wise Beyond Their Years, the inversion.

edited 15th Jan '12 8:16:58 PM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Giving a new trope a similar name as an existing one when they are distantly related but actually quite different seems like a really bad idea. The phrase "man child" is meaningful; "adult child" is... not. It's a flashing neon sign that says "Misuse me!"

edited 15th Jan '12 9:59:11 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel.
Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
(srahc 84) eltit
I'd suggest renaming to something like One of the Kids.
I guess it is.
 13 Oreochan, Mon, 16th Jan '12 12:17:04 PM from Pennsylvania
Should I do a wick check? Although there are 1078, I can at least do 150 or something like that.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
 14 Flyboy, Mon, 16th Jan '12 12:19:48 PM from the United States
Decemberist
[up] Go for it.
"Shit, our candidate is a psychopath. Better replace him with Newt Gingrich."
 15 Noir Grimoir, Mon, 16th Jan '12 1:56:21 PM from San Diego, CA
Rabid Fujoshi
I kind of like One of the Kids, actually.
SPATULA, Supporters of Page Altering To Urgently Lead to Amelioration (supports not going through TRS for tweaks and minor improvements.)
 17 Deboss, Mon, 16th Jan '12 5:53:52 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Problem being the lack of the one being a kid in the title.
 18 Oreochan, Tue, 31st Jan '12 3:43:19 PM from Pennsylvania
Yeah, there needs to be something that indicates the adult. I'll try to get the wick up soon.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
 19 Marq FJA, Sat, 11th Feb '12 12:30:33 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Bump.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Blank Slate should be added to the list of tropes not to be confused with Adult Child.

edited 11th Feb '12 1:19:52 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Support renaming Adult Child

@Deboss: You think "One of the Kids" doesn't work because it doesn't include the word "adult"? One of the Boys doesn't include the word "girl, " but I think the implication is very clear: a girl that plays around with a lot of boys and is usually tomboyish herself. One of the Kids works the same way, only this time the opposites included are "kids" and "adult, " with the adult not so likely to act their age (at least around the kids). I don't see either as being so ambiguous that someone would completely misread it.

I don't know if it might be a bit cleaner to make the reworked Adult Child a subtrope of Man Child, and possibly make another subtrope to cover the cases that emphasize irresponsibility over na´vetÚ or a failure to grow up over a choice to act less mature at time. I've honestly never heard the term "Man Child" before coming here, to tell the truth, so I don't really know the full usage of the term outside of the wiki or if it's usually as specific. Is it usually as specific elsewhere as it is here, or does it end up just meaning "a man that acts like a kid" regardless of the circumstances?
 
I like One of the Kids. It's clear, and it implies to be about someone who normally isn't one of the kids.
The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.
 24 Oreochan, Wed, 22nd Feb '12 1:31:33 AM from Pennsylvania
Alright, here's the wick check. Adult Child currently has 1131 wicks and 361 inbounds. On a related note, is there a general trope/index for any character that does not act or behave their age or is that already covered by the aging tropes we have?

Zero Context Examples or Unclear: 15 wicks.


Misused for being immature, childish instead of this behavior being influenced by children. Also for any of the tropes that are confused with adult child: 35 wicks.



I checked 50 out of 1131 wicks. 15 of them are Zero Context Examples and 35 wicks are misuse. Most of the wicks I checked thought the trope was acting childish, immature or mistook it for Man Child or Kiddie Kid. None of them explained that this behavior was because of hanging out with kids instead of being childish by nature. I have yet to actually see correct use of Adult Child.

edited 2nd Apr '12 4:41:42 PM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Childlike Adult, maybe? Man Child is an accepted term, and is used in the same way it is on TV Tropes.
 

Alternative Titles: Adult Child
4th Apr '12 2:15:03 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
At issue:
Total posts: 87
1
 2  3 4


TV Tropes by TV Tropes Foundation, LLC is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.
Permissions beyond the scope of this license may be available from thestaff@tvtropes.org.
Privacy Policy