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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#27: Jan 15th 2012 at 10:51:45 AM

I thought it was guys staring at women.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#28: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:03:44 AM

^^ Not according to its lead paragraph, at least. It's the second paragraph that says "as a result of this..."

edited 15th Jan '12 11:05:23 AM by Stratadrake

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Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#29: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:13:22 AM

The trope is that cameras always have a Male Gaze. They focus on female body parts, not male. The establishing shot of a female character walking on scene will move up her body from ankles up or something similar. That's Male Gaze. Not dudes looking at hot broads. That's just chairs.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#30: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:16:26 AM

[up]That's not chairs. That assumes there is no purpose. Are you confusing Truth in Television for PSOC?

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Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#31: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:20:44 AM

Nope. Women being more attractive to everyone in-universe because of larger breasts or an amazonian figure is a trope. Men being attracted to women and looking at them isn't. The camera looking at women's figures is. Unless you can explain something that I'm not seeing.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#32: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:28:30 AM

When have you ever seen a guy looking at an attractive women in fiction, and it was treated as something insignificant as tying shoes? That is what makes PSOC, not one just claiming something isn't a trope.

edited 15th Jan '12 11:28:42 AM by DragonQuestZ

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#33: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:30:53 AM

"When have you ever seen a guy looking at an attractive women in fiction, and it was treated as something insignificant as tying shoes?"

Constantly.

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Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#34: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:32:16 AM

[up]

edited 15th Jan '12 11:32:54 AM by Martello

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#35: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:36:13 AM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.
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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#36: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:38:27 AM

I would like specific scenes of people sitting on chairs, please. Preferably with timecode, so I can verify.

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captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#37: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:45:10 AM

I think Eating the Eye Candy is supposed to be Male Gaze or Female Gaze from the perspective of a character in the story. It might be related to this topic.

edited 15th Jan '12 11:45:48 AM by captainpat

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#38: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:49:40 AM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.
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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#39: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:51:19 AM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.
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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#40: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:55:37 AM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.
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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#41: Jan 15th 2012 at 12:00:52 PM

Knock it off, you two.

edited 15th Jan '12 12:00:57 PM by FastEddie

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#42: Jan 15th 2012 at 12:17:40 PM

"I think Eating the Eye Candy is supposed to be Male Gaze or Female Gaze from the perspective of a character in the story. It might be related to this topic."

Okay, so we have some form of this trope (although the first paragraph makes it look always female). My contention to post #29 is that a guy looking at a "hot broad" is not PSOC, as it often leads to several directions in a story, or at least is to help establish characterization of the gazer and/or gazee.

If not every instance of the trope is that, all that would need is one instance of a guy staring, and it having no such purpose. That wouldn't mean there isn't a trope, just that a few examples of a guy staring actually are PSOC, while the others fit in proper tropes.

As for "Baby Got Back", I think most examples would fall under general tropes about finding parts of the body attractive.

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#43: Jan 15th 2012 at 1:22:34 PM

On the whole body part thing, the Protag in Ai Kora has an obsession over his "perfect body part" each person in his "Harem" has one piece Catlike Eyes, Bullet train breasts, belly dancer hips, feet, back and so on... A guy has his perfect ass... [lol]

I think a person with an obsession over a certain body part I think is very trope worthy.

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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#44: Jan 15th 2012 at 1:42:58 PM

How about turning Baby Got Back into a trope where the girl flaunts her asses' large size, like Lucy did in Fairy Tail? Kinda like a Sub-Trope of The Tease?

edited 15th Jan '12 1:46:30 PM by Serocco

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MyTimingIsOff Since: Dec, 2011
#45: Jan 15th 2012 at 3:45:35 PM

Can we lock this? The trope was cut, so there's no point in keeping this thread open. If you want to make a new trope to replace it, that's a project for YKTTW, not TRS. TRS is for fixing existing tropes, not making new ones.

BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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