Fixing Africa:

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Culinary Major Beep Boop

Thumped for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.

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Stay on topic, please.

103 Ramidel12th Jan 2012 06:48:53 PM , Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Because not everyone is willing to make peace.
Fiat justitia ruat caelum.
Culinary Major Beep Boop
[up][up] That's what I'm thinking too.

Fixing Africa through peaceful, humanitarian aid would be one goddamned Herculean task (and the warmongers will probably scoff at it).

Going in and killing everything that has a pulse will just mess things up even more.

edited 12th Jan '12 6:50:36 PM by Chefbot9000

Because not everyone is willing to make peace.

But surely there is a better way than "kill all the brown folk". Like, isn't it better to try to do something peacefully and diplomatically, rather than war and genocide?
106 Ramidel12th Jan 2012 06:57:43 PM , Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Diplomacy requires a willingness to back up your words with force, though. And successful humanitarian aid requires that the aid actually reach the people it's targeted for, without being stolen or destroyed by warlords.
Fiat justitia ruat caelum.
And we can't do that without killing millions, giving the general populous an even worse standard of living and destroying culture? Call me stupid, but I think your cure might just be a touch worse than the disease.
108 Ramidel12th Jan 2012 07:08:11 PM , Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
If you're not willing to kill the people who are trying to kill or maim others for money, power or religion, then you can't have social order. Some groups or individuals will not voluntarily agree to stop the killing. Those groups and individuals need to be stopped.
Fiat justitia ruat caelum.
And war and colonisation is the best way to achieve this end? Because, in my humble opinion, those things generally don't turn out well.
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Thread Hopping from the first page because wtf:

Finally, I consider genocide ... to be a last resort

This should never be a resort at all.
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Obsidian Proboscidean
Let the elephants take over. Rurrrrr rurrr.

Seriously, though, I think they can fix things themselves. They don't need anyone's help, and genocide and colonization (from outsiders) are just what started this mess. More of the same isn't really going to solve things, and they're kind of terrible things to do.

edited 12th Jan '12 7:33:36 PM by BlackElephant

I'm an elephant. Rurr.
113 Flyboy12th Jan 2012 08:19:45 PM from the United States

That's not the worst of it by a long shot.


"My plan is less imperialist than theirs!" is still a retarded defense.

Besides, you probably remember what happened last time we handed random groups arms and ammunition and told them to go fight someone else.

Never again.
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114 Madrugada12th Jan 2012 08:32:28 PM , Relationship Status: In season
We've had a raft of Hollers about this thread in the last couple of hours, including Hollers on the thread in general being a tinderbox, and several about specific posts. In light of that, I'm locking it down temporarily while I read through it, to decide what, if anything needs to be done with it. This way I can read with attention without falling further behind.

edited 12th Jan '12 8:53:19 PM by Madrugada

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