So just hair?: Bob Haircut

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Butterfly Queen
After Bob Haircut is split, will it turn into a disambiguation?
102 SeptimusHeap6th Mar 2013 01:33:34 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Sure, why not?
103 Xtifr6th Mar 2013 02:29:27 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
With 97 inbounds, it'll have to be something!
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
SciFi Bob Haircut and Twenties Bob Haircut are ready to launch.
Butterfly Queen
'20s Bob Haircut has been launched.
Should '20s Bob Haircut be female only? A man with bobbed hair is not likey to evoke the 20s unless he is cross dressing.

Perhaps medieval bobbed hair might be a good idea as well? Boys with bobbed hair tend to evoke the middle ages, I am certain I have seen the hair cut used that way a few times.

Some examples on Bob Haircut that could work:

  • Prince Valiant is a Rare Male Example.

  • Doned from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. (?? not sure, he is from modern times, but when everyone gets sent to the more medieval Ivalice he fits in best and is the most attached to it)

  • Haku of Spirited Away, also a male version. (?? not sure, bobbed hair makes him seem more from another time, but not midieval Europeon which is what I am more familer with)

  • Kel from the Protector of the Small series by Tamora Pierce. Probably has a great deal to do with the fact that she's, well, an actual page. (a girl, but doing a mans job)

  • Sabriel from the Old Kingdom trilogy is described as having this type of haircut in Sabriel, although the cover illustration shows her with long hair. (same as above, a woman, but discribes as being mannish)

Some other examples I can think of:

  • He-Man, Eternia is not medieval but it uses a lot of mideval imagery

  • Arthur from the Disney version of The Sword And The Stone. Pretty straight-forward. Literally a page late in the movie.

edited 12th Mar '13 3:15:04 PM by willthiswork

[up] I think it is a good idea. The current page mentions at the end that it's now a Forgotten Trope. It would be good to take to ykttw to collect examples.
Butterfly Queen
Sci-Fi Bob Haircut has been launched, so Bob Haircut could probably be turned into a disambig soon. We can recycle the page image and use it for '20s Bob Haircut.
109 helterskelter19th Mar 2013 02:25:52 PM , Relationship Status: Drift compatible
[up][up][up] That would be a pageboy cut, then, wouldn't it? It would be a trope specifically about relative youth, masculinity, and a past/medieval setting.

edited 19th Mar '13 2:26:00 PM by helterskelter

^ Yes. Yes it would be.

I cannot think a lot of examples, but there is definately a cultural association since the hair cut is named after it.
111 helterskelter19th Mar 2013 08:49:32 PM , Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Pageboys are a different kind of cut. They're a bit longer and shaggier, and they always include the fringe. It's definitely used on a lot of young boys in medieval stories and fantasy. It doesn't need to be angular, as in Wart's hair in The Sword in the Stone.
Are you saying pageboys are a different haircut? Because I think they are a specific type of bob, like an a-line is a specific type of bob.
[up] Agreed with willthiswork. I think that pages' hair cut is just a type of bob hair cut. It's usually longer, but ladies' bobs have various lengths and variations as well.

I'd like it to be a sister trope to '20s Bob Haircut and Scifi Bob Haircut.

edited 1st Apr '13 6:00:29 PM by XFllo

Pageboy is a variation on the bob, with different connotations. It is a high glamour style, not a trendy flapper style. The most famous woman's pageboy is probably Bettie Paige; the most famous man's is Prince Valiant.
115 Xtifr18th Apr 2013 03:30:53 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
But again, a pageboy cut, even though it's more specific than bob, is not a trope by itself. If we're going to have a trope about it (and I agree that the medieval, on-guys version could well be a trope), it'll need a more specific name than Pageboy Cut.

eta: and Bettie Page wouldn't qualify. In fact, I don't see any trope at all in her haircut (although that doesn't mean there isn't one).

edited 18th Apr '13 3:32:57 PM by Xtifr

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[up] Agreed. I googled Bettie P. pictures and she has longer hair than a bob requires. At least in my mental image of the hair cut.

Medieval/fantasy setting and the pageboy cut for boys and men should be a trope.
117 Xtifr19th Apr 2013 04:18:59 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
In any case, the pageboy cut thing isn't really relevant to this thread. If someone wants to try to make a new trope, YKTTW is thataway. So, what's actually remaining here? Is 20's bob getting close to being launchable? And is this going to become a disambiguation? (I think it should.)
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Butterfly Queen
[up]Actually, '20s Bob Haircut has been launched a while ago. So, the next thing we have to do is make Bob Haircut a disambiguation and clean the wicks.

edited 19th Apr '13 5:26:07 PM by MacronNotes

All right if I go ahead and start on that, removing the page's current examples?
[up] That would be great, I think. I read the examples but I think most of them are contemporary and don't fit either sci-fi genre or the Twenties.

edited 8th May '13 8:43:56 AM by XFllo

There are still 350+ wicks, many of which are just contemporary characters with the hairstyle.
So we can start the clean-up. It was decided that bob hair on contemporary women is just People Sit on Chairs.
Butterfly Queen
I finished off the last 200+ wicks. Since there nothing else to do, I'm hollering for a lock.
Any further Bob Haircut ideas can go to YKTTW. Locking up.
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Alternative Titles: Bob Haircut
27th Jul '12 12:32:25 PM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
At issue:
Bob Haircut is being split into two tropes: Bob haircut to indicate a flapper or the twenties, and bob haircut to indicate a scifi setting. This crowner contains names for both tropes.

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