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helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#526: Jan 23rd 2012 at 7:51:34 AM

No one has come forward with any—I don't know how to make a crowner, or I would have already.

TTurtle Since: Aug, 2010
#527: Jan 25th 2012 at 8:53:00 AM

I guess what we'd need is another Page Action crowner, right? I mean, there isn't a specific "redefinition crowner," so I think that's the closest.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#528: Jan 31st 2012 at 3:48:55 PM

[up]Yeah, just call it "New Definition For GERH".

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#529: Feb 1st 2012 at 10:25:48 AM

Despite discovering how to make a crowner, I still can't, since the former crowner is still in place there.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#530: Feb 1st 2012 at 4:03:40 PM

Add a "redefine" to the end and then make that crowner.

Fight smart, not fair.
helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#531: Feb 1st 2012 at 8:32:14 PM

Crowner here, then. Any missing options?

helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#533: Feb 2nd 2012 at 1:13:42 PM

For reference:

  • Define as short-hand for important characters, 8 (yeas:10 nays:2) 5.00 : 1
  • Define as short-hand for otherness, -2 (yeas:2 nays:4)

With all others currently -7.

helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#534: Feb 3rd 2012 at 10:59:20 AM

  • 11 (yeas:15 nays:4) 3.75 : 1, Redefine, important characters.
  • 1 (yeas:5 nays:4) 1.25 : 1 Redefine, "otherness".

All others at -8 or below.

helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#535: Feb 4th 2012 at 6:32:41 PM

  • 10 (yeas:15 nays:5) 3.00 : 1, Redefine, important characters
  • -2 (yeas:4 nays:6), Redefine, "otherness".

All others -10 or below. Time to call, or what?

edited 4th Feb '12 6:32:55 PM by helterskelter

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#536: Feb 4th 2012 at 6:40:40 PM

Calling crowner in favour of indicating important characters.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#537: Feb 5th 2012 at 9:30:53 AM

Okay. I'll start writing a Sandbox. I feel like a few things need to be hammered out:

No live action examples except in the case of actresses hired specifically for this combination, or make-up/cosmetic/wig examples. No examples where people have Technicolor Hair (unless they a part of a group of people with regular hair colors, and they're the only green-eyed redhead). No background characters, no minor characters.

That sound good?

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#538: Feb 5th 2012 at 9:32:37 AM

Sounds good.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#539: Feb 5th 2012 at 9:50:39 AM

Should I write that criteria directly into the trope, or simply hide it at that top? Actually, maybe both?

helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#540: Feb 5th 2012 at 10:22:46 AM

Green Eyed Redhead—how's it look? Some examples I couldn't check to see if they weren't from a technicolor hair series or weren't major characters.

edited 5th Feb '12 10:24:34 AM by helterskelter

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#541: Feb 5th 2012 at 10:28:00 AM

Uh, the Sailor Moon example seems incorrect. She has brown hair.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#542: Feb 5th 2012 at 10:36:01 AM

[up] She only has brown hair in the anime. Manga version is a red head.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#543: Feb 5th 2012 at 10:59:52 AM

Hmmm, well, Takeuchi is really inconsistent with colouring (Usagi's mother has been seen with at least three different hair colours), but I guess it counts.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#544: Feb 5th 2012 at 6:50:51 PM

Well, I'll go ahead and clean up the related links, then. Is a rename in order? I think so, or we're guaranteed to see misuse. I'm also going to take out any Real Life examples, since they cannot be this trope.

ETA: Finished A-K. Anyone feel free to look over or continue. I'm done for today. Currently found in 291 articles.

Also, I have found it extremely amusing about how desperately people want real life actresses to be a Green-Eyed Redhead. Every single—every single—example of a real life person I've removed has not had green eyes, but blueish eyes or hazel eyes. Felicia Day, Karen Gillan, Marcia Cross, Adele, Christina Hendricks (who has blue eyes and isn't a natural redhead)...there's probably more. But people see red hair and light eyes and they jump to call them a Green-Eyed Redhead.

edited 6th Feb '12 1:03:58 PM by helterskelter

TTurtle Since: Aug, 2010
#545: Feb 5th 2012 at 7:37:42 PM

Re: the examples, if technicolor hair settings are automatically disqualified, then Wendy Garret from Gun X Sword is not an example. She's the female lead, and definitely important, but other female characters in the anime include a Rose Haired Girl and a woman with blue hair, so . . . not this trope as it's currently defined.

helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#546: Feb 5th 2012 at 7:52:22 PM

You don't need permission to take it from the sandbox. I certainly don't own it. grin Go ahead and take off whatever doesn't count, just leave an edit reason.

helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#547: Feb 7th 2012 at 4:40:55 PM

Finished A-P. Currently found in 275. So...rename? It needs one.

Important Green Eyed Redhead? Seems too straightforward. Kind of...boring.

TTurtle Since: Aug, 2010
#548: Feb 7th 2012 at 10:14:53 PM

[up] I was thinking something along similar lines: Significant Green-Eyed Redhead, which might have the same problem of being boring.

Goldstone Since: Jan, 2012
#549: Feb 13th 2012 at 5:43:20 AM

I don't believe the trope or its explanation needs any change. Green eyes and red hair are a popular color combo in fiction, which unlike the cliche blonde hair and blue eyes combo (which doesn't have its own page), is very rare in real life, and people find that combo very appealing, which is probably why it's so popular.

All any character needs to qualify for this trope is to have red hair and green eyes. That's it.

End of story.

captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#550: Feb 13th 2012 at 6:01:30 AM

[up] It's way too late for that argument.

AlternativeTitles: GreeneyedRedhead
2nd Mar '12 6:51:34 AM

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Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.

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