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drdeathray Since: Jun, 2011
#1: Dec 26th 2011 at 8:35:37 PM

"Our heroine is a tomboy — rough and tumble, as interested in fashion as she is interested in watching paint dry. However, in the reboot or in the doll, she becomes a girly girl." The trope image for this it's supposed to be a before and after pic of the heroine from tomboy to girly girl. So which is the tomboy? I see a Time Skip but not a transition from tomboy to girly. .

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#2: Dec 26th 2011 at 8:41:56 PM

Exaggerated enough? Not a reboot nor doll, though.

edited 26th Dec '11 8:52:51 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#3: Dec 27th 2011 at 3:18:57 AM

Definitely pull the current image. I'm not sold on the Joan of Arc one, though.

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#4: Dec 27th 2011 at 4:12:34 AM

New Dora the Explorer.
Old Dora the Explorer.

edited 27th Dec '11 4:31:01 AM by Blurring

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20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#5: Dec 27th 2011 at 8:43:30 AM

The second one seems to have some attitude, but definitely too subtle for the page image.

[up]That looks perfect. We should probably put classic Dora first.

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helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#6: Dec 27th 2011 at 10:20:49 AM

Actually, can't we use a couple of examples?

Old/new Dora, old/new Rainbow Brite, old/new Strawberry Shortcake? 2

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edited 27th Dec '11 10:26:27 AM by helterskelter

Katrika Since: Jul, 2009
#7: Dec 27th 2011 at 10:26:30 AM

Strawberry Shortcake was too frilly originally, I think. Same for Rainbow Brite - too girly in the classic. In fact, Rainbow Brite just looks like a change in stylization, not a real makeover.

edited 27th Dec '11 10:27:14 AM by Katrika

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#8: Dec 27th 2011 at 10:35:41 AM

I don't know, I think there's a notable difference—first, they made her older so she could be pretty and wear make-up. Second, she's a lot more fashionable. Her shoes were big and clunky, her dress was old-fashioned and more comedic than girly. I don't think she's girly, really. Rainbow Brite was a bit more girly, but there's definitely a difference that seems to follow with this trope: taller and skinner, wearing more make-up, and more fashionable clothes.

But perhaps the page image for the work shows it better.

Although, I think the trope's opening could be rewritten—it's not always tomboy becomes girly girl, I don't think, but it could also be when a character is reinvented to simply be more girly than before, provided they are still targeting the same age group. There's the habit of making the reinvention taller, skinnier, wearing make-up and more fashionable clothes. Yes, Rainbow Brite was fairly cute, but the new one is clearly an attempt to make her more Barbie-like.

Katrika Since: Jul, 2009
#9: Dec 27th 2011 at 10:40:46 AM

Here's my suggestions, although I'm unsure if they're better than Dora. I'm going to try to put it into a horizontal configuration, too. Also, I get what you're saying about RB and SS - the upgrade takes away their cartoony cuteness in favor of idealized, if kiddish, prettiness. Still unsure if that's this trope.

edited 27th Dec '11 10:47:32 AM by Katrika

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#10: Dec 27th 2011 at 10:57:06 AM

I think the Dora pic is the best of the above suggestions.

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#11: Dec 27th 2011 at 11:27:12 AM

[up][up] The "Mulan cutting her hair" part of your collage is already in use at Important Haircut, you'll need to use something else to illustrate that part.

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#12: Dec 27th 2011 at 11:48:14 AM

Eeeh, I'm actually favoring Dora at this point.

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#13: Dec 27th 2011 at 12:31:25 PM

Dora is the best so far; the Strawberry Shortcake one looks pretty girly to begin with.

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#14: Dec 27th 2011 at 2:00:42 PM

Yeah, Dora. Going from obvious tomboy to that is the best way to show the trope so far.

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#15: Dec 27th 2011 at 3:11:38 PM

Definitely favoring Old Dora —> New Dora.

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#16: Dec 27th 2011 at 5:19:38 PM

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#18: Dec 27th 2011 at 6:27:20 PM

Support for 16.

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#20: Dec 27th 2011 at 8:34:40 PM

"Left: Dora The Explorer. Right: Dora The Valley Girl."

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#21: Dec 27th 2011 at 8:36:19 PM

@20

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#24: Dec 28th 2011 at 1:28:16 AM

That's Dora The Explorer?? Support.

edited 28th Dec '11 1:28:25 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

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#25: Dec 28th 2011 at 1:34:21 AM

[1]?

Bigger and better but separate images. [2][3][4][5]

edited 28th Dec '11 1:37:24 AM by Raso

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