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Whoosh! Another shot against the accepted facts of the present. Don't you just hate when scientists act as though all the facts in the world has been discovered and there's nothing new left to learn? So, how long before the Square/Cube Law crumbles and we finally get funding for Humongous Mecha?

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Don't you just hate when scientists act as though all the facts in the world has been discovered and there's nothing new left to learn?

If any scientists thought this they wouldn't be scientists.
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Don't you just hate when scientists act as though all the facts in the world has been discovered and there's nothing new left to learn?

I would, if I'd ever seen it happen, because it goes against the philosophy of science. But I don't think any scientist would think that because then they wouldn't be a scientist. Scientists' careers are built around the fact that we don't know shit and there is stuff left to learn.
 
Sorry about that, I'm just nursing a grudge at all the killjoys who go on the mecha forums I frequent and start spamming "YOUR MECHA WILL NEVER WORK STOP LIKING THEM!!!!"

In fairness, Newtonian physics is already shown itself to work almost perfectly in practice, so even if it is not applicable to every scale (Namely the minute and the fucking huge) it is still a pretty close approximation of what is and is not possible. Though the fact that people are talking science at all in mecha forums concerns me, they should know that humanoid mechs are more trouble than they are worth and that most mechs worth a damn would just end up looking like tanks anyway.
 
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[up][up][up]Honestly, zoology is an entirely different field from Newtonian physics. A discovery that Square/Cube Law doesn't work would be an "the universe works far differently from what we thought", while this is more like "oh, interesting little detail".
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 8 Loni Jay, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 5:03:10 AM from Australia Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Edited because i'm an idiot and didn't read the article.

Huh. Well, there you go.

edited 23rd Dec '11 5:04:42 AM by LoniJay

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 9 Major Tom, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 5:12:22 AM Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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Elephants have a 6th toe!

I have a cat that has 6 fingers. (No she's never crossed paths with Inigo Montoya.)

So, how long before the Square/Cube Law crumbles and we finally get funding for Humongous Mecha?

We passed that point years ago. Remember an Army guy in Alaska built an 18 foot tall fully powered fully functional mecha out of welded steel and some hydraulics. Modern engineering can improve upon that.

edited 23rd Dec '11 5:12:58 AM by MajorTom

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 10 lord Gacek, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 5:38:05 AM from Kansas of Europe
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TL; DR, so speaking from memory, the max number of fingers I think is seven. That's what the fishes left us with.
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 11 Radical Taoist, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 9:18:10 AM from the #GUniverse
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From the article:
This bone - which is not quite an extra digit, but does the job of one - helps the panda to grip bamboo, and is called the panda's "thumb" or "sixth finger". Moles too have a bone masquerading as an extra digit, which helps them to dig.

And now, the team says that elephants can be added to the list of species for whom five fingers or toes are not quite enough.

Prof Hutchinson said: "It would have started out as a little nub in the tissue, which may have not even have been bone originally - it could have been cartilage.
I don't see what the scientific revolution is. Fascinating, but not groundshaking.

re: Mecha - why would we WANT to build a walker more than a story tall? That thing's an enormous target just begging for someone with an RPG launcher to pop it. I'll stick to my humvees and tanks, thank you.
 12 USAF713, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 10:18:48 AM from the United States
I changed accounts.
@OP,

I am now known as Flyboy.
 13 Major Tom, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 10:22:32 AM Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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^^ So you can slap rocket thrusters and all sorts of firepower on it to make it more lethal than a main battle tank and more mobile than any wheeled machine. Especially since in that setup, you can't stop mecha with a simple Pit Trap. (Seriously that's the easiest counter to a tank offensive. Just lure em into a bunch of holes and let gravity pin em to where they can't get out.)
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 14 CDRW, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 10:28:52 AM Relationship Status: Mu
ITT I don't know what the topic of discussion is.
 15 USAF713, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 10:29:07 AM from the United States
I changed accounts.
I don't see... well, you know what, this topic is essentially pointless, so I don't know that I'll bother stopping the derail.
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Y'know Major Tom, you wanna start a "Viability of Mecha Warfare" thread? It deserves its own topic. It really does.
 17 Octo, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 3:37:28 PM from Germany
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Eh, why bother with mechs? Not only are they impractical, tanks are way cooler anywaycool
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 18 Blixty Slycat, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 4:01:39 PM from Driving the Rad Hazard
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Elephants Have Six Toes = Mecha are Plausible in the Real World.

Surely, I don't have to point out how utterly bent this logic is?

Don't get me wrong, I don't know nearly enough about physics or engineering to say with authority whether or not mecha are practical in the real world (I also don't particularly care, and I say this as a BattleTech fan), but you're seriously going to use elephants having six toes to back up that argument? That's not even jumping to conclusions, that's being so far away from the conclusion that you need six airplanes and a rocket to get there.
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 19 Octo, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 4:06:37 PM from Germany
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So, in other words, and staying on the topic derail, the OP is a Wobbie tongue
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If the topic's elephants, I ain't got much to say.

If the topic is mecha, I'll say what I said a gazillion times on Writer's Block: Humongous mecha are immensely impractical: The Square/Cube Law's a bitch. Smaller mecha are entirely plausible, but they're just glorified Power Armor.
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 21 blackcat, Fri, 23rd Dec '11 5:50:49 PM Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Part of me wishes this topic were else where so I could make up a song about a mecha in a pear tree. But it's not.
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