Weblinks Are Not Examples :

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Dragon Writer
This is basically a general watching thread for cleaning up articles that are relying way too much on using external links to explain their examples. After all, external links may go dead or break, we can't use them as a substitute for a good citation.

Two such pages I stumbled across recently:

edited 26th Jun '13 11:47:07 AM by Stratadrake

Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
This type of thing has always been a blight on the webcomic pages, IMO. Can we finally get rid of this type of thing now?

Oglaf is probably another example. I haven't checked it thoroughly, but it looks like there's about two weblinks for every example with an actual explanation. (I can volunteer to fix it if needed; I'm not familiar enough with the other works.)
It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
I really don't think this a problem. Rather, it's an advantage of webcomics; we can use links to help illustrate the examples.

Now, if it's nothing but the link, then yeah, that's just a different breed of X, Just...X and needs more detail. But most of the ones I see are more like this:

than this:

The latter is wrong (and is a hypothetical example; the page uses the former) and should be expanded, but the former is perfectly fine. It's clear enough without the link, but with the link its even better.
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[up]OK, thanks for the clarification.
It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
When I've used outside links (like with webcomics) I've always included enough information to get the point across in the text itself, in addition to the link.
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Dragon Writer
Discar's got it right. External links can be used to compliment the explanation of a trope — they just can't be used as the explanation. The purpose here is for performing cleanup on examples that rely exclusively on their external links.

edited 22nd Dec '11 6:42:42 PM by Stratadrake

7 Deboss23rd Dec 2011 05:14:54 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I'd also say that Oglaf should have all its links but the one up top blanked. That site is very NSFW, even if the specific comic is.
8 DragonQuestZ23rd Dec 2011 05:15:34 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Wonderella is a major offender... and I'm guilty of a couple.

So what if I fixed that up?
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Dragon Writer
Awkward Zombie also seems to be a major offender. Anyone got the time?

edited 23rd Jul '17 2:42:34 PM by Jicragg

11 Lightflame24th Mar 2012 07:36:46 AM from where you can't find me , Relationship Status: Drowning in your pond, hoping you'll notice me
Stick of the Fallen
Not Always Right. Every example, I think.
"Oh great! Let's pile up all the useless cats and hope a tree falls on them!"
Dragon Writer
The links on Boobs Ahoy seem to have all broken. They need to be either fixed or removed.
On Not Always Right and Zinnia Jones, the names of the episodes usually explain what the episode is about, thus not being that much of a problem. But yeah, some fleshing out may be in order.
14 SeptimusHeap5th May 2012 08:23:49 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
The Non-Adventures of Wonderella is rich in weblinks and poor in no-weblinks explanations.
15 SeaKitten5th May 2012 03:01:21 PM from The Left Coast
Troll Fic has a bunch of examples consisting of a link with little or no explanatory text. (Also some which probably violate our new content guidelines, but that's another matter.)
Who could that be at this hour?
16 Xtifr5th May 2012 07:18:48 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Deboss@7: Oglaf has a warning/screener page, so you can't see anything NSFW unless you already have the cookie. Previous discussions have suggested that's acceptable.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
Tired forever.
Unsurprisingly, Vapor Wear has a few issues with this.
What is this "sleep" you speak of?
Sinfest like most webcomics has a huge problem with this.
19 DragonQuestZ13th Aug 2012 02:36:44 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
I added context to about half the bad examples on the Wonderella page. But there's a database error right now on that site, so the rest will have to wait.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
20 Nohbody13th Aug 2012 03:46:56 PM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
^^ Thanks for reminding me, I had made plans to work on Freefall to fix that, but it slipped my mind. It'll have to wait until tomorrow, though. Stupid Real Life, making me have to actually work to pay my bills. tongue
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[up][up]Thank you very much!
It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
22 DragonQuestZ20th Aug 2012 08:11:29 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Finished fixing the Wonderella page.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Songs To Wear Pants To has every example simply linked to the website.
The amount of dead links in the meme section of My Little Pony:Friendshipis Magic is outright embarrasing.
25 SeptimusHeap29th Jan 2013 12:29:35 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Courtesy link: Memes.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic.

I think you can just comment out the offending memes, or put them on to the discussion page.

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