Here's my piece on this:
I find that the whole problem here is a matter of submission and tolerance. We should not, ever ban subjects of discussion. We should tread them lightly, yes, even have a moderator on close watch (But not doing the fatalistic "Mod Hat + YOU'RE ALL WARNED" thing, which tends to be more of an omen than a thread title or a stupid OP ever are)
What we should do is start reevaluating our policies on what is a dick. Or what is dickish and what is not. And how we punish this behaviour.
Now, this may just be me, but I sincerely believe that people should be able to speak up and complain. But, and here's the kicker, be civilized about it. One of the things I've noticed is that many of the people who complain about the problems here tend to be overtly snide and holier than thou. Myself included. Hell even I, at times, have lost my shit and started to just try and be as mordant as possible. We're all subject to our feelings and we all make mistakes. Eddie does them too, as he has proven today, not with the bannings, but with what I feel is a wrong call in calling someone's opinion worthless based on a rather weak base of argument.
Now, here's a thought experiment I want you, any reader, to perform. I want you to imagine, what if someone came in to your room, office or whatever right now and started to tell you what is wrong, step by step with you. Imagine if said person tried to do it in the most cruel way they can muster. Insults, and so on. And I want you to be completely honest with yourself when you answer the next question: "Would you listen?"
That's the problem at hand. I'm not saying that everyone who criticizes the site has been someone who has gone out of his way to be hurtful, but a lot of the people who have come in to do so, have done it with the intention of rubbing in how superior they are for realizing that this, like many, if not all the sites in the internet, is a flawed one.
So, I beg of the past, present and future people who criticize the site, who feel like saying what they believe of the site, to follow Melloncollie's example here and show a degree of civility. Being right is not a free coupon to being mordant and a dick. Even if you think I'm wrong, then do it for the sake of people listening to you. After all, that's why you post and that's why you decide to speak up in the first place. Not to be ignored.
That on the side of the poster
On the side of Administration:
I feel that the administration is problematic. I've gone over why many times by now. I feel that they forgive things that should not be forgiven in a misguided attempt at a free forum where everyone speak up and silence the opinions that matter in an attempt at a peaceful forum.
This has caused an atmosphere of almost fear in the air, where engaging in talk with most moderators is scary because you feel that at any moment they might decide that your post is being dickish. Hell, I remember a while back being thumped because I called someone who I hold in high regard, mockingly, a weeaboo in a thread that is constantly frequented by moderation. I feel that that
exemplifies exactly what I find wrong with the moderation these days. They resort to deletion and thumping immediately as if this was the magic solution to things when it's not.
In fact, this touches upon on something that I feel that both sides have engaged a lot and it's on intimidation and attacking in the name of a discussion. Discussion should not be about moderators putting on their modhats and deleting everypost they're replying to. How are we supposed to follow a conversation if they do this, anyway? However, discussion should not be about trying to be as biting and hurtful as possibly as you can.
This, on one side. Another big problem I find with the current administration is how...close minded it can be at times. Appealing things takes effort and time that I feel are excessive, and it's almost always a big struggle that ends up in nothing. Arguing with Eddie has been, in my past experience, a pain and a hazard, because the man himself is not willing to listen to his opposition and just uses his administrational powers to shut them down.
At the core of this all, there is a paradox. I feel that TV Tropes
is, or wants to be, two places. Whether it is a free forum where people can discuss and speak up their minds without problems or persecutions or
a forum where Eddie's friends hang out. The problem is that it can't be both. It is now up to administration to decide: Who are we gonna be?
I guess that's all I have to say. I don't think there's anything I'm interested on discussing, and frankly, I'm expecting this post to not be read by morning or to have an edit tag by a moderator. I dunno. And I don't care. All I know is that this is what I think about this. You can skip it, or you can read it. And I hope this post helps towards dealing with these problems.
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