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[up][up][up]Part one: the guys who are fapping to transformation have seriously thought that shit through. Part two: for somebody who isn't turned on by such, or more likely, somebody whose end-form isn't exactly desirable, the details of the transformation considered in lurid detail in part one can become pretty damn terrifying. Not mysterious, like you said, but as part of, say, an I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream scheme, the gratuitous detail would carry some extra weight. Especially if, as said, the end result would only make things worse from there, and it takes a while to figure out exactly what the malefactor is planning, even as it is dropping barbed hints the whole time.

edited 22nd Dec '11 6:22:09 AM by KillerClowns

152 SharkAttack22nd Dec 2011 06:37:28 AM from under and within the sea
Here's another common issue on the forums: Long project focus. Not that writing novels or series is bad, but so many of the projects on here are simply huge, and they're not even started. Personally, I think people are getting bogged down by the vastness of their stories, which is why they aren't writing even five years after they get the idea.

Anyone here write short stories or plays? They're a lot of fun to write, they're challenging due to the time and word restraints, and they build up your writing skill.
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[up][up] Nothing I've written is beyond 28,000 words, and have mostly been exercises more than an attempt at something worth publishing. Writing for me is just a hobby though anyway, something to help keep the imaginative/abstract parts of my mind more open I suppose.
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@Shark: I write short stories in addition to prepping a longer thing. Yes, they are great for practice and skill building.
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[up][up][up][up] Most people here want to have written rather than wanting to improve their writing, so they get impatient and work on their 12 book Steampunk opus without learning how to write first. I would recommend to anyone who wants to do creative writing to start out with exercises and short-stories that allow you to focus on the fundamentals of character interaction and making even the most insignificant of things (Like walking somewhere) meaningful and engaging with out having to resort to Robot Dragons and violent sex scenes to keep the audience's interest.
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157 ohsointocats22nd Dec 2011 07:41:32 AM from The Sand Wastes , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
[up][up][up][up] People aren't writing their ideas?

Since November 2010, I've:

  • Written an 80,000 word story, scrapped it, started over
  • Written a 25,000 word story, trunked it
  • Written 10,000 words of the started over story, scrapped it, put it on hold
  • Written a 20,000 word story, scrapped it and trunked the idea
  • Written 40,000 words of the started over story, started over again, and scrapped it
  • Written 50,000 words for NaNoWriMo, which is the 25,000 word story rebooted.

This is not counting fanfiction or the false-starts inbetween.

So... I do not think that's a problem for all of us.

edited 22nd Dec '11 7:43:26 AM by ohsointocats

[up][up] Yes.
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Re project length: I write short stories (though I'm a novelist at heart).
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160 MajorTom22nd Dec 2011 08:39:51 AM , Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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Re: Unstarted projects.

I've been putting Endless Conflict to paper (technically Microsoft Word) for nearly 2 years.

I plan to immediately (well within a short time anyways) begin work on Towards the Valley of Flowers upon its completion sometime next year while continually revising and polishing it.

Hardly a day goes by where I'm not thinking about my works or doing something with them.

edited 22nd Dec '11 8:40:14 AM by MajorTom

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161 ohsointocats22nd Dec 2011 09:05:25 AM from The Sand Wastes , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The point is that not all of us are idea mills that produce nothing, and it is unfair to accuse all of us who don't write short stories of it. Some of us are just very shy.

edited 22nd Dec '11 9:06:08 AM by ohsointocats

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163 MajorTom22nd Dec 2011 10:31:36 AM , Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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^^ And some of us just don't have a thing for spewing short story after short story after short story.
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164 nrjxll22nd Dec 2011 01:17:48 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
[up]Indeed. I actually don't have much of a problem with short stories, but (as I said earlier), I have no particular writing ambitions and I'm not going to churn them out just so I'm always writing something.
165 SharkAttack22nd Dec 2011 08:01:03 PM from under and within the sea
Perhaps instead of saying most people haven't started their projects, I should have said they haven't finished their projects, because that's the real issue. (Although some people also haven't started their projects.) I think my point still stands— people spend a lot of time on long stories that never get completed, when they could spend a little time writing something shorter to hone their skills.

@Oh So into Cats: So basically in the past year you've written 225,000 words worth of unfinished projects, most of which you scrapped. While I admire your tenacity, and any writing is certainly good practice, what you just told me is that you've been writing for a year and have no completed projects. That really isn't something to brag about. 225,000 words is the equivalent of two genre novels; it's three young adult novels. It seems to me that even if you're not delaying your projects by not writing, you're delaying them by constantly restarting. It's another form of procrastination, and it's a bad habit you need to get out of. This year, make it your goal to finish something. (Also, I don't see what being shy has to do with writing short stories.)

@ Major Tom: I think it's kind of fascinating how you assume if you write short stories, you have to pump out loads of them. No one says you have to "churn out" short stories; even one can be a really excellent writing project. Look at it as an exercise, something to stretch your mind between writing your novel. You can explore a genre or a theme you wouldn't want to devote an entire novel to— break out of your comfort zone. They don't take much time, you can finish one in a week, you practice writing... what's the downside to trying?

@ General thread: Basically, if you've spent years on a longer project without finishing it, I suggest trying to finish a shorter story, just to see if you can. What have you got to lose?
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So... I have three and a half "completed" (in the sense that any story can ever be complete) novels all between the length of 60l-110k words. Do I win anything?
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167 ohsointocats22nd Dec 2011 10:25:42 PM from The Sand Wastes , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature

Oh, it's worse than that, in the past few years I've written about 600,000 words and have nothing publishworthy to show for it.

How are we defining "complete"? There are many that I have completed the story of, but most of them I throw out because by the time I finish I know that they will never amount to anything because they are so terrible.
And that's fine, Ohso. But as for your stories being "terrible", you don't know if you don't at least try, man. And if all you do is chuck your efforts without ever giving them a chance to make it to others, then it doesn't sound like you're trying very hard.

I may be severly depressed, but I'm not self-defeatist. Do I need to reach through the internet and give you a pep talk and a slap?
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