General Star Wars Thread

This is a really good promo for the entire saga so far from Sky.

edited 30th Nov '15 1:19:23 PM by higherbrainpattern

@hbp I dunno. It just didn't feel like something that fit the Star Wars universe. It felt more like something you'd see in a spoof movie or a joke.

edited 30th Nov '15 1:52:20 PM by SonOfSharknado

I mean, Star Wars has its share of comedic moments throughout all the movies, but the scene doesn't seem particularly comedic; Finn seems a bit nervous about some upcoming event or something. So, I guess, from my perspective, I don't really understand what the problem is.

edited 30th Nov '15 2:09:11 PM by higherbrainpattern

It just seems weird to me that apparently the Star Wars universe has a Judeo-Christian afterlife.

And also that the black guy is the first person to ever say it.

I think Han says "Hell" at least once in the OT.

edited 30th Nov '15 2:28:19 PM by HamburgerTime

Hell is a concept found in multiple religions, not just the Abrahamic ones. Also, "Hell, no" is just an expression.

But it's an expression that requires Hell to be a thing.

...Huh. Must've forgotten.

Not really. Most people that say "Oh my god" or "hell no" don't actually believe in either. If they did, they'd consider it disrespectful. Han never literally meant "I will see you in the afterlife of eternal torment that I believe is real and yet apparently have no worries about eternal torment forever."

Eh, that's (the part about believers not actually using those words) not likely at all. Pretty sure God and Hell aren't the real names you're not supposed to say. You can actually say "oh my God" and even "Hell no." Folks who don't know any better complain at you, but they're not the actual bad words. God's the job title. The name is [REDACTED]. Hell's real name is closer to Inferno.

Remember, all this stuff is in Latin. Neither word you're actually thinking are condemned are Latin words at all. So you're okay to say them.

Ever seen Christian films? There's virtually no swearing in them. And Christian review sites, where there's often tallies on the number of swearwords used in films. Same amongst the Christian schools I've been to, and likely so for other religions like Judaism and Islam where the name of God is Serious Business.

edited 30th Nov '15 3:55:16 PM by Tuckerscreator

No, a lot of Christians say hell and oh my God. I would go so far as to say most probably have at some point. You're thinking of really religious people, and even then I know some who say oh my God, or some variation of that.

No comment. I have nothing nice to say about that crowd.

In any case, the OP isn't that one has to be religious to use those terms, but that those terms require having been created in a religious context regardless of current usage.

edited 30th Nov '15 6:36:23 PM by KnownUnknown

Star Wars having religions doesn't seem like that strange of a concept though. They might not be as prominent as they used to be but it wouldn't surprise me if one of the human religions had Hell as a concept.

Star Wars cosmology could be defined as deistic, in that there's some sort of supreme being but it's more of an abstract idea that a person, and rarely gets involved in mortal matters.

Perhaps, assuming the entirety of Star Wars in under Translation Convention and not spoken in English, Han actually said something like "then I'll see you at the Werat Gyuji" and the translation went with "Hell" because that's the closest Earth equivalent.

But hey, it's the not the first time Star Wars said something based in Earth languages.

Other than location names, alien races, and Force stuff, just about everything in the series uses English words.

Yeah, and they often put in a qualifier for things that indicate some sort of baseline Earth "norm," like they wouldn't call something blue milk if regular milk wasn't another color.

Harrison Ford loves the movie.

Harrison Ford's a pretty withdrawn guy. He's always so shy/uncomfortable in interviews.

Lucas' earlier drafts of ANH (this part coming through in the novelization he also wrote) had the same joke as xkcd, where Obi Wan says "even a duck must learn how to swim," to which Luke replies, "what's a duck?"

So Obi-Wan can see into other galaxies? The Force is mysterious indeed...

"Yes Luke. In fact, in 162 years people will be watching our tale as filmed on primitive motion picture screens."

Er, Finn might need some help with that lightsaber there...

What the hell did I just witness.

Something incredible.