The Afterlife: What You Want Versus What You Believe:

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Oh My
Ah. My mistake then. People often use the two words to mean the same thing in my experience.
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
I would like to have a chance to relive my life, but also remembering my past life.

What I think happens is that you either dont exist anymore... or that you just loop eternally and you are never really born or you never really die... and that life is just an illusion .

edited 23rd Dec '11 10:40:49 AM by Baff

I will always cherish the chance of a new beggining.
128 AdmiralMemo3rd Nov 2013 06:48:01 PM from Baltimore, Maryland, USA , Relationship Status: Singularity
What I believe is Heaven and Hell

What I fear is Cessation of Existence

I've determined that I would actually rather go to Hell for eternity than cease to exist, mainly because, even if it's unending torment, _I am still me_. The void, the lack of self, is frightening, and if death is just Cessation of Existence, I could easily find myself doing ANYTHING to try to stop it, no matter how horrible.
129 tricksterson3rd Nov 2013 07:53:51 PM from Behind you with an icepick , Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
What I hope for is nothingness, what i think is the most likely is reincarnation because the Great Whatever that created the hellhole we call existence isn't about to let go of It's victims that easily.
What I believe:

That there is an afterlife. I have no idea about the specifics

What I want:

That there is an afterlife like Planescape one - the dead are reincarnated at the plane that shares their alignment. It seems perfectly just to me, in almost Kantian sense - that is, people get to be in the place where their own maxim is a universal law.

edited 3rd Nov '13 8:01:44 PM by Beholderess

If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
131 MaxwellDaring3rd Nov 2013 09:01:18 PM from YOUR MIND , Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Taco in the streets, taco in the sheets.
Belief: there is no afterlife, so make life worth it.

Want: Neural chemists will invent brain uploading and give us an afterlife.

edited 3rd Nov '13 9:02:08 PM by MaxwellDaring

Just a taco in general, really.
132 Euodiachloris3rd Nov 2013 09:07:01 PM , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
My belief: probably... we get a great big Game Over sign and fade to black. Or what seems like an "unending dream state", even if it is finite and you still get a fade to black at some point.

However, I don't really know if I believe it strongly enough to say "yep: that's for sure". I guess I'll find out when I find out. Although I'd like reincarnation, I can't say I believe in it strongly enough to look forward to it. And, besides which, there's no point: I'll be a different person/ being/ creature should that happen.
133 Ramidel4th Nov 2013 05:14:56 AM , Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
My belief and my hope: Cessation of Existence. Heaven would be fine if God existed and was benevolent towards me in particular, or humanity in general; the odds are against this.
Fiat justitia ruat caelum.
What I bel- Ah, screw this...

What science proclaims is the law of conservation of energy: Just as my body is made from the atoms of others, so is my consciousness a conglomerate of a myriad neural impulses and electrical energy, with no immutable me to speak of. And just as my body will dissolve and eventually be used in the making of others, be it as food or grade A fertilizer, so will my mind disperse and become part of others. There may be no afterlife for me, but there will be billions upon billions of lives... after.

Thus, here's a simple, scientifically supported ethical principle and purpose to live by: Have fun, be excellent to each other, and leave the world a lesser mess than you found it in, because really, chances are that even death won't be a Grand Finale, but at most a Cliffhanger for the next season.

edited 4th Nov '13 6:47:15 AM by indiana404

135 dRoy4th Nov 2013 06:59:42 AM from The Happy Place , Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Perpetually clueless
Somewhat unrelated, but I never understood some people's fear of Cessation of Existence. Is it just an extension of fear of death?

I mean, if you just turn to what? You are nothing, so it's not like you are going to feel it or anything.
Proud holder of Ph.D in laziness!
not sure this one's actually a skull, but w/e
Being dead is easy. It's dying that scares people. I like existing. I don't want to not exist. The knowledge that I won't care after it happens is only of mild comfort.
I stopped worrying about strange men on the internet around the time I became one.
137 Achaemenid4th Nov 2013 07:16:05 AM from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 , Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
For me, Roger Ebert nailed it:

I know it is coming, and I do not fear it, because I believe there is nothing on the other side of death to fear. I hope to be spared as much pain as possible on the approach path. I was perfectly content before I was born, and I think of death as the same state. What I am grateful for is the gift of intelligence, and for life, love, wonder, and laughter. You can't say it wasn't interesting. My lifetime's memories are what I have brought home from the trip. I will require them for eternity no more than that little souvenir of the Eiffel Tower I brought home from Paris.

The rest of the blog post is worth a read.

Schild und Schwert der Partei
I don't actually fear the Cessation of Existence. It is not the best fate to hope for me, but it is not scary, and should it happen, I definitely won't be in position to be upset by it. It's literally nothing to be upset about.

However, I do tend to believe that there is an afterlife - not even because of hope or fear, but simply because that's how belief works. I am convinced, intellectually, that there probably isn't any. However, I can't make myself believe it. The closest thing to reason I have is that Cessation of Existence makes no narrative sense to me. That's it? No sequel and no fanfiction? It is as if one reads a good book and immediately forgets it.

Now, I don't think the universe runs on narrative causality. However, there is some evidence that human minds often do perceive the universe in such terms, and this particular human definitely does
If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
not sure this one's actually a skull, but w/e
Personally, as much as I dislike the idea of ceasing to exist at some point, I prefer it to the idea of not ceasing to exist at some point.
I stopped worrying about strange men on the internet around the time I became one.
140 dRoy4th Nov 2013 07:41:30 AM from The Happy Place , Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Perpetually clueless
Even though I'm a Christian, I think I will be okay with the idea of having no afterlife.

The only thing I don't like about death are:

  • The chances are it's going to be painful, and I don't like pain, unless it's from exercise and such.
  • Other people, like my family, being really crushed by my death.
  • I still haven't watched/read/played so many series! [lol]

edited 4th Nov '13 7:41:55 AM by dRoy

Proud holder of Ph.D in laziness!
141 InverurieJones4th Nov 2013 07:50:31 AM from North of the Wall. , Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
'80s TV Action Hero
What I believe: Zoom back 'up' (or 'in' or 'sideways' or however it all fits together) for a quick debrief then 50 years or so in reserve and keeping an eye on my descendants before being given a new posting.

What I want: See above. Eternity is too long to stay in one form, whatever it may be.
'All he needs is for somebody to throw handgrenades at him for the rest of his life...'
[up]Sounds good.

I've used to say that when I die, I want my tombstone to say "Game over. Start another game?"
If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
143 dRoy4th Nov 2013 07:56:56 AM from The Happy Place , Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Perpetually clueless
Proud holder of Ph.D in laziness!
144 ohsointocats4th Nov 2013 08:11:29 AM from The Sand Wastes , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Well there's that thing where the cosmos might be a huge simulation. I guess in this case we might all just be archetypes that will get reused like Goddamn Bats on our planet, right?
145 tricksterson4th Nov 2013 02:05:19 PM from Behind you with an icepick , Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
[up]x5 Yeah, I ain't dying until George R. R. Martin finishes A Song of Fire and Ice dammit!
146 dRoy4th Nov 2013 02:30:49 PM from The Happy Place , Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Perpetually clueless
I should get around reading that.

Heck, I haven't even finished the Lord of the Rings yet! [lol]
Proud holder of Ph.D in laziness!
147 Balmung4th Nov 2013 02:39:01 PM from Omaha, NE, Free American Empire , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
148 Soban4th Nov 2013 02:44:25 PM from The Park , Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Feeder Of Pigeons
What do I believe happens after death? I think that we get a look at every life that has ever been lived in minute detail before a absolutely just judge who assess what we owe him for our part in breaking the universe. Then we have to pay what we owe or have someone else who does not have anything owed pay it for us. After that we get together for great dinner type thing where we get to interact with everyone as groups or individuals. Then we come to a formal toast, where everyone speaks to their experience on earth. After that, we are finished with basic training and get to do the interesting stuff. We rule the universe from the new capital.

That's also want I want so I might be biased. What do I fear? Cessation of Existence.

edited 4th Nov '13 2:45:20 PM by Soban

As is in accordance with prophecy.
149 Kostya4th Nov 2013 02:46:15 PM from Everywhere , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Believe: Cessation of Existence seems most likely but sometimes I get these random...I don't even know what to call them...impressions(?), that I've been reincarnated before and that will happen again after I die. The former seems more logical though even if I find it depressing.

Want: Anything but Cessation of Existence or Hell. Reincarnation is nice but I don't like the idea of starting over from scratch with no hope of ever remembering my past. Heaven is a nice thought but I feel like it would be too easy to get bored eventually. I think my ideal would be to become a disembodied consciousness like a ghost or something and travel the universe to explore. Eventually it would end but if I'm lucky a new one will pop up with all kinds of new stuff that isn't possible in this one.
not sure this one's actually a skull, but w/e
I really think by the third time of running out of things it is possible to do most people would be bored enough to give non-existence a shot.
I stopped worrying about strange men on the internet around the time I became one.

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