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New York teacher tells kids there is no Santa Claus:

 76 Santos L Halper, Tue, 6th Dec '11 1:20:45 PM from The Canterlot of the North
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I can't believe that people are getting pissed at a teacher for educating their children.
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While I think it's not really nice to say that to little kids (who might feel embarrassed for having believed something untrue), I'm not sure it'll really scar them forever.
This, basically. He shouldn't have done it, but people are really over-reacting.
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 78 Joesolo, Tue, 6th Dec '11 2:24:26 PM Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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I feel embarrassed for saying this but I was bawling when my mom told me Santa and the Easter Bunny weren't real (my twin sister on the other hand, had figured it out for quite a while). There was no doubt I felt really depressed afterwards, but rather than go on a homicidal rampage and rebel against my parents by committing crimes I simply moved on and understood just how stupid I was for believing something so silly. I never hated my parents afterwards, in fact I am quite happy they allowed me to enjoy my Christmases with the thought of a supernatural being watching over me before "the talk" occurred.
 
 80 Milos Stefanovic, Sat, 10th Dec '11 5:39:30 AM from White City, Ruritania
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To be honest, when my mom told me there was no Santa (I was 6), I didn't really care. It were the presents that mattered to me, after all, and I was still getting them. But I remember that I was kinda pissed for being tricked.

On the other hand, you have the story of my father, who grew up in an extremely strict environment, and who seriously thought that Santa existed until university because his parents didn't bother to tell him otherwise. He accepted it as a fact, because it came from his parents. When his colleagues laughed at him and told him there is no Santa, he literally had a nervous breakdown. Needless to say, he didn't become the most stable husband and father, but a tyrannical, sadistic manchild.
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 81 Inverurie Jones, Sat, 10th Dec '11 3:57:47 PM from Station 78 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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"Should have told them that the holiday is about Jesus Christ, not Santa Claus. That would've really ruined their Christmas."

Pffft. No dead Jewish heretic will be sticking his manky oar into my solstice celebrations, thankyou very much.

If a parent chooses to raise their kids to believe in Santa, where's the harm, providing the kid is normal, brain-wise? Kids usually figure it out themselves fairly early on anyway. If you really want to stop people perpetuating terrible lies that warp kids brains you're going to need to burn down every TV station, magazine publisher and church on the face of the Earth.

edited 10th Dec '11 4:01:12 PM by InverurieJones

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 82 JHM, Sat, 10th Dec '11 4:08:01 PM from Neither Here Nor There Relationship Status: I know
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While I understand, in theory, what the teacher was trying to do (maybe), that was probably not the way to go about it...
"On the other hand, you have the story of my father, who grew up in an extremely strict environment, and who seriously thought that Santa existed until university because his parents didn't bother to tell him otherwise. He accepted it as a fact, because it came from his parents. When his colleagues laughed at him and told him there is no Santa, he literally had a nervous breakdown. Needless to say, he didn't become the most stable husband and father, but a tyrannical, sadistic manchild."

Is this highly unlikely narrative meant to be a caveat?
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 84 Milos Stefanovic, Sat, 10th Dec '11 4:30:08 PM from White City, Ruritania
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It does indeed sound unlikely until you get to live with him (which is, thankfully, over for me). I don't have the means, nor interest, to prove it, so you'll just have to take my word for it.

And yes, it is something of a caveat. There are children who take everything their parents tell them for granted, as well as some who are too dumb to realize some things for themselves. If your kid is like that, you'll have to "break the magic" when the time comes.
The sin of silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.
I'll take your word for him being an aggressive douche, but not for him being an aggressive douche because it took him until adulthood to find out that Santa isn't real.
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 86 Milos Stefanovic, Sat, 10th Dec '11 4:44:00 PM from White City, Ruritania
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I never claimed that - he was fucked up from the beginning. But a nervous breakdown is still a nervous breakdown.

Maybe what I said is more applicable to a thread about parenting, to show the dangers of what can happen if the parents teach their child to dogmatically listen to them. But it just dawned upon me when I was writing that post.
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 87 Kexruct, Sun, 11th Dec '11 10:46:16 PM from Vvardenfell
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I believed in it, or rather chose to believe in it because I wanted to, until fifth grade. I don't think that this is a lie that parents should perpetuate past age six or so because past that time it brings up harder questions and adds more stress to making Christmas good.
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 88 Joesolo, Sun, 11th Dec '11 11:00:13 PM Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I was... i actually don't remember. 10ish? I remember being upset for a little while, and finding out about the easter bunny and tooth fairy about a week later. I think I got "The Talk" about the same time actually.

Anyway, I'm not screwed up now. Or, at least not because of that.
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I don't think that this is a lie that parents should perpetuate past age six or so because past that time it brings up harder questions and adds more stress to making Christmas good.
This, except that I'd choose a slightly higher age than 6. (Age 8, maybe?)

edited 12th Dec '11 5:35:36 AM by HiddenFacedMatt

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