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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

Edited to be a thread header.

Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

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#651: Dec 4th 2015 at 12:56:24 AM

The Green Inferno has problems with zero context entries, as well as with the ban evader that keeps adding them.

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dsneybuf Since: Jul, 2009
#652: Dec 17th 2015 at 11:21:23 AM

Do the entries on Trivia.The Shaggy Dog seem worth commenting out?

ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#653: Dec 20th 2015 at 9:26:23 AM

Since it got brought up on ATT, I figured I should bring up Characters.PokemonClefairyTales here, as there be quite a bit of ZCE's to work on (Little Miss Snarker under Leaf, for example).

ETA: Just now got started on it. Will bring up the affected examples at "Is this an example?", one character at a time, at some point in the near future.

edited 20th Dec '15 9:47:25 AM by ryanasaurus0077

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#654: Jan 6th 2016 at 6:31:00 PM

Kyle XY had a lot of Zero Context Examples that I just commented out and listed on the discussion page. I was able to retrieve a few examples from the trope pages, but not many. I can't do anything about the others since I've never seen the show.

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maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
#656: Jan 10th 2016 at 4:28:23 PM

I just commented out several examples on Money Train and all of Money Train. Should the YMMV page be cut or left for someone to add context?

edited 10th Jan '16 4:28:45 PM by maxwellsilver

NotOnAnyFlatbread Not that kind of doctor from Unknown, but definitely not on flatbread Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#657: Jan 17th 2016 at 2:51:42 PM

Just commented out a bunch of entries in Playing with Fire, and I was being generous in what I counted as "context." The "Anime and Manga" and "Webcomics" sections were particularly bad, so if any fans of those genres feel inspired to chase down some context, you are sorely needed!

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#658: Jan 21st 2016 at 11:35:23 AM

Love and Freindship could use some help from anyone familiar with the work. Most of the entries were zero context examples. I expanded a good number of them from the entries on the corresponding trope pages, but most of those entries weren't very clear either and rely heavily on quotes from the text.

NotOnAnyFlatbread Not that kind of doctor from Unknown, but definitely not on flatbread Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#659: Jan 23rd 2016 at 8:45:21 PM

I just commented out a bunch of ZC Es on The High Queen. I left most entries that had any context that seemed related to the trope, but that still leaves quite a few examples that are pretty weak/tenuous.

Unfortunately, many of the tropers who provided examples seemed to be shoehorning in any character who is a queen without any justification for why she qualifies as The High Queen specifically (there was even one I deleted that explicitly stated that the character was really an example of God Save Us from the Queen!, i.e., the opposite of The High Queen). In addition to the standard ZCE notice, I included a note specifying what type of context was needed (specific qualities from the trope description) and that merely being queen did not qualify. Is there any other action that should be taken to combat the shoehorning?

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#660: Jan 24th 2016 at 3:21:02 AM

On The High Queen you commented out Reign even though it said how she is having the respect and devotion of her subjects.

NotOnAnyFlatbread Not that kind of doctor from Unknown, but definitely not on flatbread Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#661: Jan 24th 2016 at 6:11:40 AM

[up] That example said:

  • In the episode "Liege Lord" of Reign Queen Mary tells Lord McKenzie, her late father's loyal man, about the secret clause in her wedding contract. She asks him to tell everyone when he returns to Scotland. He accepts, lowers his sword and bows to his Queen and tells her he's waited a long time for her to rise.

By my reading, that implies that the queen has the respect and devotion of one specific subject who was loyal to her father. It doesn't really say anything about widespread support. It doesn't even indicate clearly that this man's loyalty was earned by her own qualities rather than beimg a holdover from his respect for her father.

The example is also so muddled with details of no apparent relevance that I'm not sure what the writer's intended point was (if I'd been able to extract some clear relevant information from what was already there, I would have tried to rewrite it). There is some wedding contract with an significant but unspecified clause, something her subjects are supposed be told...but no indication of why it matters or what reaction is expected.(Edit: if whatever message the Lord conveyed resulted in widespread respect and devotion from her subjects, then the whole thing might be relevant, but the example never goes that far and I'm not familiar with this work to know.)

If the example makes more sense to you or if you know enough of the context to fill it out, please add it back! To me, it didn't seem like an exakmple as written.

edited 24th Jan '16 6:16:32 AM by NotOnAnyFlatbread

Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#662: Jan 27th 2016 at 7:19:12 PM

On Delayed Wire and Big Store, The Sting is a Zero-Context Example of the most contemptible sort—mentioned before all other examples as if everyone knows the movie and how the trope plays into it.

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#663: Jan 29th 2016 at 5:15:32 PM

After I eat my dinner, I'll comment out all the ZC Es on Tomboyish Ponytail, and there's a horrid amount there. Probably not helped by the fact that the description is not exactly descriptive

Edit: done

edited 29th Jan '16 6:54:44 PM by Acebrock

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#665: Feb 12th 2016 at 3:29:21 PM

[up]Wow, I just took a look at The Bird Feeder, and it's a complete mess. It needs more than just ZCE cleanup.

To summarize:

1. The work description, in its entirety, is one sentence: "The Bird Feeder is a webcomic that chronicles the lives of backyard birds." And the link to the webcomic's page is incorrect.

2. I don't see even one example with sufficient context.

3. All of the links I've tried for individual comics, i.e., the only context provided for most examples, are incorrect and lead to the latest webcomic rather than one in the archives. The numbers in the incorrect links do not correspond to (current) comic numbering either, e.g., Paper-Thin Disguise had the link http://thebirdfeeder.com/?p=40, but the 40th comic http://thebirdfeeder.com/comic?sort=40 involves no disguises.

4. For about 70 listed tropes (all ZC Es or weblinks), there are exactly two links from elsewhere on the wiki.

Unless someone is willing to dig through this whole webcomic to find context, I'm not sure this page is fixable.

edited 12th Feb '16 3:30:18 PM by NotOnAnyFlatbread

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#666: Feb 12th 2016 at 5:57:36 PM

[up] Had a feeling that would be the case. Well, it's cutlisted now.

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NotOnAnyFlatbread Not that kind of doctor from Unknown, but definitely not on flatbread Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#667: Feb 13th 2016 at 8:49:16 PM

Just did some cleanup on The Devil's Advocate, including commenting out a number of ZC Es.

Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#668: Feb 13th 2016 at 9:42:05 PM

Wacky Homeroom is one of those schizophrenic pages that can't decide whether it wants to be a trope page or a genre index. Most examples lack context (fluff is not context).

maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
#669: Feb 15th 2016 at 8:19:28 AM

Contested Sequel on Duke Nukem Forever has just "Let's leave it at that" and a pothole to Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement as its context. I was going to comment it out as a ZCE, but I thought I'd mention it here first.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#670: Feb 15th 2016 at 11:24:34 AM

[up] Looks like a ZCE to me. The Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement pothole isn't saying anything that explains the entry.

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#671: Feb 17th 2016 at 1:56:39 PM

A Boy and His X consists almost entirely of "examples" phrased as "A [person] and [his/her] [noun]" with no further context. Not quite sure how to attack this one without commenting out the whole page.

edited 17th Feb '16 1:58:23 PM by NotOnAnyFlatbread

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#672: Feb 17th 2016 at 3:09:51 PM

I just expanded and/or commented out ZC Es on The Adventures of Shan Shan. However, it looks like most of the crosswicks are ZC Es, too (usually with a weblink to the associated strip). I don't have time right now to tackle those.

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#674: Apr 4th 2016 at 12:39:57 PM

Traintop Battle has a lot of examples that should explain more than "it happens in this movie".

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#675: Apr 12th 2016 at 3:54:06 PM

Characters.Khatru seems to be riddled with entries that provide no context.

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