Can someone explain what's going on in the image?

Yeah, I think this needs a change.

I think is suppose to be Gwen Stacy acting like a Rich Bitch when she's more commonly know as a kinder love interest...But still, I agree that it takes a bit more than common knowledge to get it.

I think this'll take a two parter, labeled with year of release on both sides.

Yeah, I agree that this would take a two-parter to show it for any example.

Yeah, Gwen had a mean streak when first introduced, then became just super-nice.

Turns out there's a website that's already done a lot of the heavy lifting on the changes to Gwen.

Tons of possibilities there, but these are probably my favorites:

• Mean Ditko Gwen◊
• Nice Romita Gwen◊

Motion to pull

Pic doesn't show enough of the trope.

I agree that this is gonna need at least a two-panel pic.

Seconding the pull.

Thirding.

Support pull.

Pull as JAFFAC.

Pulled.

Someone added a new picture without posting it here first. Would anyone like to share their opinions on it?

Text is hard to read and I don't see how that's any better than what we pulled

If the text was readable and a second panel using a batman with his now standard "I hate guns" thing then I could see it working.

That's more of an Out-of-Character Moment, as Batman has always hated guns as far as I know

The new pic would have to be paired with one of him saying he doesn't like guns with a caption noting the shift.

Not for the first couple years. It's not like he had a gun on his utility belt, but he used them when he needed to.

Not even that. It showed up in the first issue and then never again as sort of the reason he doesn't use guns.

Then it is this trope we just have to find something to match it to.

Very few people have any idea Batman has ever used a gun. Even fewer than the number of people who know he disdains guns.

I don't like western comics (especially DC) and even I know that one. But if we can find a pic of him flat out saying "I hate guns" or "I refuse to use guns" etc it would work.

Edit: Actually it might be Early-Installment Weirdness more than this.

edited 26th Jan '12 1:47:40 PM by Raso

Shimaspawn, you've got that slightly wrong.

He used a gun in the first issue of his own comic, which is what you're talking about, but Batman had already been appearing in Detective Comics and using guns for a year or so before that.

And Early-Installment Weirdness doesn't have a picture yet. Batman gets my vote. Should we start a new thread for that?

Edit: According to the description for Early-Installment Weirdness, "When a character displays this, it's Characterization Marches On." So I guess using Batman as an image would be misleading.

edited 26th Jan '12 5:32:24 PM by abk0100

Is that a deliberate misinterpretation of the idea that overlapping tropes might in some cases interfere with the clarity of an example? It wouldn't at all in that one.

Almost every guideline is case-by-case, there are very few rules that apply to all articles regardless.

edited 26th Jan '12 6:28:01 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Deliberate? Probably not, because I still don't really understand what I misinterpreted.

Actually, I think I just misinterpreted that line in the description. Yeah, I assumed it was saying "this trope doesn't apply to characters," but it wasn't.

edited 26th Jan '12 8:15:32 PM by abk0100

Bumping. Are we all done here?