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I had been meaning to create this thread, since I read a lot of blog posts about writing.
This thread is where you can link articles and blog posts about writing.
First link: Creating Archetypal Characters To Fill The Dramatic Functions in Your Noveledited 13th Nov '11 6:52:05 PM by chihuahua0 Please visit my writing blog for...writers.
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![]() Don't you think that today it is in this sort of popular literature that you find strong archetypes, symbolic images which have vanished somehow from the more highbrow literary works?
Yes, I do, and I think that it's part of their often phenomenal success. There is no doubt that a good story has always mattered, and the great novelists have generally built their work around strong plots. But I've never been able to decide whether the plot is just a way of keeping people's attention while you do everything else, or whether the plot is really more important than anything else, perhaps communicating with us on an unconscious level which affects us in the way that myths once did. I think, in some ways, the conventions of realistic fiction and drama may impose serious limitations on a story. For one thing, if you play by the rules and respect the preparation and pace required to establish realism, it takes a lot longer to make a point than it does, say, in fantasy. At the same time, it is possible that this very work that contributes to a story's realism may weaken its grip on the unconscious. Realism is probably the best way to dramatize argument and ideas. Fantasy may deal best with themes which lie primarily in the unconscious. I think the unconscious appeal of a ghost story, for instance, lies in its promise of immortality. If you can be frightened by a ghost story, then you must accept the possibility that supernatural beings exist. If they do, then there is more than just oblivion waiting beyond the grave.
This kind of implication is present in much of the fantastic literature.
I believe fantasy stories at their best serve the same function for us that fairy tales and mythology formerly did. The current popularity of fantasy, particularly in films, suggests that popular culture, at least, isn't getting what it wants from realism.
These archetypes, I believe, stem from Jung's collective unconscious - the imagery which lies universal to every human mind. This is why Star Wars (the original trilogy) has enjoyed such massive appeal, and also why The Lord of the Rings is a milestone of fantastic fiction.
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Well, if we're going to give links I think a mention of Writing Excuses wouldn't go amiss. Seriously, those guys have taught me so much.
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Mystery Writing is Murder: Talking to Readersedited 16th Nov '11 2:09:00 PM by chihuahua0 Please visit my writing blog for...writers.
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@first post: decent article, but I strongly disagree with it on one point—characters can simultaneously fulfill opposing roles, so long as they fulfill them for different story goals. For instance, if one of your protagonists wants to kill or defeat one of your other protagonists, each can be the other's "avoiding" archetype. (This is something Golden Sun handled really well, and I've heard it also worked in Invader Zim.)
@last post: The bit about running gags reminds me a lot of My Life Is A Goddamn Mess. The title begins as the main character's catchphrase, but he uses it less and less as he matures. In the end, he uses it again as he dies, but he can't finish the last word.
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
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Mystery Writing is Murder: 9 Pieces of Bad Writing Advice it’s Best to IgnoreSo, what do you think? edited 17th Nov '11 2:24:08 PM by chihuahua0 Please visit my writing blog for...writers.
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edited 17th Nov '11 5:07:15 PM by QQQQQ Writer's Welcome Wagon
Children's Publishing: This Week for Writers 11/18/11: Our Favorite Articles and Blog Postsedited 18th Nov '11 2:44:39 PM by chihuahua0 Please visit my writing blog for...writers.
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Anti-Shurtugal lives on... kind of.*drinks your tears while cuddling you*
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Looks interesting, even though I can't really read through it right now. What happened to it anyways?
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I think they stopped paying for the web hosting fee or something and then it became a page full of random plumbing advertisements.
First, they're the Inheritance Cycle hatedom. Second, they're articles on bad writing, but they use Inheritance as an example. Having examples is pretty convenient. I would especially recommend the Epistles.
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Monday:
edited 21st Nov '11 3:42:53 PM by chihuahua0 Please visit my writing blog for...writers.
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As a firm believer in the effectiveness of what not to do guides, I present you Kippur's commentary on that infamous "Dear Negative Reader" thingy.*drinks your tears while cuddling you*
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Wow, that attitude...she should at least acknowledge the potential flaws in her series.
Tuesday:
edited 22nd Nov '11 2:29:36 PM by chihuahua0 Please visit my writing blog for...writers.
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Wednesday:
No articles, sorry.
Thanksgiving Greetings:
Thursday:
edited 24th Nov '11 7:34:09 PM by chihuahua0 Please visit my writing blog for...writers.
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I'm curious what people think of thisThat's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
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I only went through it for shits and giggles. At least it wasn't a "one question wrong and you fail" thing.
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Limyaael's Fantasy Rantsedited 24th Nov '11 10:06:29 PM by NoirGrimoir SPATULA, Supporters of Page Altering To Urgently Lead to Amelioration (supports not going through TRS for tweaks and minor improvements.)
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The only thing I can find to criticise is her knowledge of weapons. That wouldn't be a mentionable point, but sometimes she's like "x isn't like that, it's like this", when x is nothing of the sort. That said, even when dealing with such things, her narrative advice is excellent. Definitely use it; just ensure that you look for terminology and technicalities elsewhere.
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