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 1 d Roy, Tue, 18th Oct '11 1:26:32 AM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Talk about diseases, medicines, treatments, medical insurances, hospital policies, and everything else interesting about human bodies here.

I like the smell of medicines that I'm allowed to smell. By the way, what are the average expiration period for medicines? One of my relatives works in a pharmacy and he says that it is very important to throw all the expired drugs because shit can go to hell if some of them were sold and consumed.

"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
 2 Loni Jay, Tue, 18th Oct '11 1:29:45 AM from Australia Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Yes, expired medications can be dangerous. There isn't one standard date of expiry, but it should be on the label somewhere (or on the various resources for the drug). It might be listed as a half-life.
Be not afraid...
 3 d Roy, Tue, 18th Oct '11 1:32:57 AM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Half life? That indicates the time for something to become half of its original content, isn't it? How does it apply to drugs?
"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
 4 Loni Jay, Tue, 18th Oct '11 1:40:21 AM from Australia Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Well... that's the time in which half of it will have changed into a different form, I guess.

Actually, I'm not sure if they would list it as that. It makes sense that they would, but maybe there's some other method.

One of my lecturers told us a cautionary tale the other day about this vet who suspected some cows had contracted tick fever and treated them - but they all died. Only when they did a postmortem did he discover that the medications he'd given them were out of date. The cows had necrotic muscles all down their back where it had been injected, which had killed them.
Be not afraid...
 5 d Roy, Tue, 18th Oct '11 1:42:50 AM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Oh. Well, at least got the "half" part right...

Necrotic muscles, as in dead/decayed muslces?

In a random note, if I could repeat my high school year, I would take the path so I could study medicine. I'm especially interested in drugs that influences neurological system (there must be a term for that but I don't know).

edited 18th Oct '11 1:44:36 AM by dRoy

"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
 6 Deboss, Tue, 18th Oct '11 1:44:30 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Not all compounds break down at the same rate and there will be statistical differences between it being made.
 7 d Roy, Tue, 18th Oct '11 1:45:17 AM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
[up] ...I've only understood the first half. tongue
"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
 8 Deboss, Tue, 18th Oct '11 1:59:30 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
No matter how precise you set your machines to make the pills, there will be slight differences. So, you take a portion of them and figure out how long until a specific percentage is no longer useful or becomes dangerous.
 9 d Roy, Tue, 18th Oct '11 3:15:29 AM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Ah, I see.

I find it rather interesting that those vitamin supplements are actually created from rocks. Eating rocks...weird.
"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
 10 Deboss, Tue, 18th Oct '11 4:06:07 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
It makes sense if you think about it. They have to get the materials from somewhere.
 11 d Roy, Tue, 18th Oct '11 4:16:51 AM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
I used to think they came from fruits and sea plants.
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 12 Madrugada, Tue, 18th Oct '11 9:15:34 AM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Some do. But minerals are, well, minerals.
'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
 13 lord Gacek, Tue, 18th Oct '11 9:20:28 AM from Kansas of Europe
KVLFON
I'm especially interested in drugs that influence neurological system

Isn't every student? cool
"Atheism is the religion whose followers are easiest to troll"
 14 d Roy, Tue, 18th Oct '11 3:30:30 PM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
[up][up] Yeah, it's funny how long it took for me to realize that.
"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
 15 d Roy, Sun, 30th Oct '11 11:47:23 PM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Hmm, necro.

Is any one of you familiar with these terms, supposedly used by the doctors to insult patients?
"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
 16 Vellup, Mon, 31st Oct '11 12:44:52 AM from America Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
I have balls.
"Donorcycle" is the only term that I've heard in real life.

However, point #1, (Chronic Biscuit Toxicity) sounds perfectly believable, because I know for a fact that basically all doctors abhor fat people and the horrible obstacles they present toward anesthesia, surgery and of course, being vulnerable to a huge amount of diseases and complications in the first place.

Also, speaking of medicine, this video is kind of funny. Something of a satire against orthopedic surgeons by an anesthesiologist (for the record, Orthopedics and Anesthesia are two of the toughest fields to get into, even among medicine).

edited 31st Oct '11 12:45:28 AM by Vellup

They never travel alone.
 17 d Roy, Mon, 31st Oct '11 1:04:12 AM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Interesting...

By the way, America's obesity rate hasn't started to decrease, has it?
"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
 18 d Roy, Mon, 14th Nov '11 3:52:48 AM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Does anyone have any idea what kind of effect a complete cure for incurable diseases, like cancer or AIDS, have on society?
"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
 19 USAF 721, Mon, 14th Nov '11 4:31:04 AM from the United States
F-22 1986 Concept
A disease would be wiped out.

More seriously, you could see the death rate go down, maybe some civil temporary unrest over distribution, etc.

edited 14th Nov '11 4:32:47 AM by USAF721

USAF713 on his phone or iPod.
 20 d Roy, Mon, 14th Nov '11 7:50:55 AM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
It makes me wonder if it's lack of cure or lack of proper distribution that kills more people. :/
"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
 21 Deboss, Wed, 16th Nov '11 1:16:07 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Well, seeing as the first automagically causes the second...
 23 d Roy, Thu, 17th Nov '11 9:30:17 PM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
[up][up] Uhm...whoops?

[up] That's really impressive.

cells were coated with a chemical found in algae which prevented them from being attacked by the immune system.

Does anyone know what the chemical and the algae are?

"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
 24 Septimus Heap, Sun, 20th Nov '11 1:05:29 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
The chemical is called Alginic acid, and it comes from some seaweed. See The Other Wiki for details.

 25 d Roy, Sun, 20th Nov '11 7:43:11 PM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
[up] Ah, thanks.

Oh, I heard that when someone gets a concussion and doesn't get up within minutes, that is a serious problem. What happens? What should the people around him/her should do, then?
"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
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