The Medical Thread:

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Talk about diseases, medicines, treatments, medical insurances, hospital policies, and everything else interesting about human bodies here.

I like the smell of medicines that I'm allowed to smell. By the way, what are the average expiration period for medicines? One of my relatives works in a pharmacy and he says that it is very important to throw all the expired drugs because shit can go to hell if some of them were sold and consumed.

2 LoniJay18th Oct 2011 01:29:45 AM from Australia , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Yes, expired medications can be dangerous. There isn't one standard date of expiry, but it should be on the label somewhere (or on the various resources for the drug). It might be listed as a half-life.
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Half life? That indicates the time for something to become half of its original content, isn't it? How does it apply to drugs?
4 LoniJay18th Oct 2011 01:40:21 AM from Australia , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Well... that's the time in which half of it will have changed into a different form, I guess.

Actually, I'm not sure if they would list it as that. It makes sense that they would, but maybe there's some other method.

One of my lecturers told us a cautionary tale the other day about this vet who suspected some cows had contracted tick fever and treated them - but they all died. Only when they did a postmortem did he discover that the medications he'd given them were out of date. The cows had necrotic muscles all down their back where it had been injected, which had killed them.
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Oh. Well, at least got the "half" part right...

Necrotic muscles, as in dead/decayed muslces?

In a random note, if I could repeat my high school year, I would take the path so I could study medicine. I'm especially interested in drugs that influences neurological system (there must be a term for that but I don't know).

edited 18th Oct '11 1:44:36 AM by dRoy

6 Deboss18th Oct 2011 01:44:30 AM from Awesomeville Texas
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Not all compounds break down at the same rate and there will be statistical differences between it being made.
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8 Deboss18th Oct 2011 01:59:30 AM from Awesomeville Texas
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No matter how precise you set your machines to make the pills, there will be slight differences. So, you take a portion of them and figure out how long until a specific percentage is no longer useful or becomes dangerous.
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Ah, I see.

I find it rather interesting that those vitamin supplements are actually created from rocks. Eating rocks...weird.
10 Deboss18th Oct 2011 04:06:07 AM from Awesomeville Texas
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It makes sense if you think about it. They have to get the materials from somewhere.
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I used to think they came from fruits and sea plants.
12 Madrugada18th Oct 2011 09:15:34 AM , Relationship Status: In season
Some do. But minerals are, well, minerals.
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13 lordGacek18th Oct 2011 09:20:28 AM from Kansas of Europe
I'm especially interested in drugs that influence neurological system

Isn't every student? cool
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[up][up] Yeah, it's funny how long it took for me to realize that.
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Hmm, necro.

Is any one of you familiar with these terms, supposedly used by the doctors to insult patients?
16 Vellup31st Oct 2011 12:44:52 AM from America , Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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"Donorcycle" is the only term that I've heard in real life.

However, point #1, (Chronic Biscuit Toxicity) sounds perfectly believable, because I know for a fact that basically all doctors abhor fat people and the horrible obstacles they present toward anesthesia, surgery and of course, being vulnerable to a huge amount of diseases and complications in the first place.

Also, speaking of medicine, this video is kind of funny. Something of a satire against orthopedic surgeons by an anesthesiologist (for the record, Orthopedics and Anesthesia are two of the toughest fields to get into, even among medicine).

edited 31st Oct '11 12:45:28 AM by Vellup

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By the way, America's obesity rate hasn't started to decrease, has it?
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Does anyone have any idea what kind of effect a complete cure for incurable diseases, like cancer or AIDS, have on society?
19 USAF72114th Nov 2011 04:31:04 AM from the United States
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A disease would be wiped out.

More seriously, you could see the death rate go down, maybe some civil temporary unrest over distribution, etc.

edited 14th Nov '11 4:32:47 AM by USAF721

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It makes me wonder if it's lack of cure or lack of proper distribution that kills more people. :/
21 Deboss16th Nov 2011 01:16:07 AM from Awesomeville Texas
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Well, seeing as the first automagically causes the second...
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[up][up] Uhm...whoops?

[up] That's really impressive.

cells were coated with a chemical found in algae which prevented them from being attacked by the immune system.

Does anyone know what the chemical and the algae are?

24 SeptimusHeap20th Nov 2011 01:05:29 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
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The chemical is called Alginic acid, and it comes from some seaweed. See The Other Wiki for details.
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[up] Ah, thanks.

Oh, I heard that when someone gets a concussion and doesn't get up within minutes, that is a serious problem. What happens? What should the people around him/her should do, then?

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