Once Upon A Time

Season 3 for me. The Neverland arc is probably the best the show has been.

That is true.

It's really a shame that brought back Rumple. That was a great way to end his arc, and probably the closest to a happy ending he could hope to get.

I liked Seasons 1 and 2 the most. I hated the Pan-Neverland Arc the most. It was a good end to Rumple's story and the fucked it up by bringing him back and making him an irredeemable prick. The Neverland arc had way too much meandering around (all on ONE set too which made it all the more dull to watch) and Henry continuing to be the most annoying child in the world and that season was even more awful with the whole 'If you disagree with Henry, you're in the wrong and probably a villain' trend (and still making rash stupid decisions that nearly get him killed more than once). Lastly, the season quite simply cheated with Prince Charming's whole 'I can't leave Neverland' subplot.

Agreed!

Wonder what ever happened to Mulan

Mulan's actress went over to do mainly movies: She's only been in on other tv show since leaving Once and only for one episode, but she's done like four movies since then.

While I agree season 1 & 2 were better, the first half of season 3 is my favorite despite not turning out how I thought. I had no idea Peter Pan would wind up being a dead beat jerkass of a dad. My favorite episode of the season would have to be Lost Girl. There was a tearjerking moment between Mary Margret and Emma that stuck with me ever since.

edited 11th Sep '15 3:33:00 PM by there_will_be_cake

The first half of season 3 is my favorite part of the show. It's not retroactively ruined by bringing Rumpelstiltskin back for me, but I vastly prefer him at that point in the show compared to after.

I think that's what the writers were going for, though.

Like, Rumple got this big Heroic Sacrifice at the end of the Neverland arc and it was a big redeeming moment for him.

But Rumple's not a heroic figure. So what happens if you bring back someone who died redeeming themselves? Do they continue to follow that path or fall back into old habits?

That's the tragedy of Rumpelstiltskin.

I suppose.

It likely didn't help that his revival cost him the life of his son, the person he sacrificed so much for in the first place. Losing one of your morality pets and your whole motivation for everything you've done isn't exactly a good way to stay on the proper path.

Speaking of redemption, I thought Regina was going to fall back and kill her sister.

Oh, and it's a little late, since I already saw it a while ago but....

NOOOOOO!!! STEALTHY!!!!!

Kinda ironic that we all must have seen that coming a mile away huh?

This is the second time a re-telling with the seven dwarfs had an extra one who died. Is that gonna be a thing now?

Is number 8 doomed to get plot shanked?

Problem not, one adaptation might make him evil.

There was that one movie that had one of the "dwarves" (they were actually social outcasts and rejects) was actually Snow White's love interest as opposed to the "prince" (a nobleman) or even the Huntsman.

It's actually the one Snow White adaptation I genuinely like from beginning to end (Snow White and the Huntsman I really only like for the visuals, Charlize Theron and the fact that there's no romance for Snow which is unique).

Except maybe that part where she makes out with her brother.

Whelp. Completly contradicting what I said previously: Jamie Chung is to return to Once this season.

Yes! Bring back everybody! Ruby! Mulan! Aurora! Cora! Archie!

I can say with certainty that Dr. Whale won't be around at all, since David Anders is very busy playing Blaine.

Eh, Frankenstein. Unless he wants to make the bride...

Remember when Henry mentioned Frankenstein not being in the book? Did they just drop that plotline like the moment they raised it...

I thought they were going to dive deeper into the Frankenstein plot. It seemed to be leaning towards a magic vs science conflict. I was actually pretty intrigued by that.

They probably were, and they're kind of incompetent at keeping their cast members.

Seeing as his last appearance was pretty much right before he must've done the pilot for iZombie, any storyline they had planned there must've just disappeared into the air.

They're pretty incompetent with keeping their plotlines in order.

• Mulan-Aruora got dropped almost instantly and may or may not be finally getting addressed this season.
• Cinderella's Prince getting kidnapped in the second episode hasn't been mentioned since.
• Ruby-Whale got dropped instantly and the Horror!Land has been unmentioned
• King George's plans to take over the town got instantly dropped
• Lacy... need I say more???
• Will Scarlet was in a healthy happy relationship and living happily ever after with the Red Queen in Once Upon a Time in Wonderland. Now he's inexplicably catching the rebound on Belle FOR NO REASON AT ALL???

I could be here for a few hours if we really want to continue this...

Well, to be fair with the Will one, his own show was cancelled and he was supposed to have an explanation for what happened to get him to Storybrooke (and thus justifying him as a member of the main cast), but Season 4 was very busy (I would say overly busy, in places) and his storyline got bumped, presumably to Season 5.

Even if the season was busy, doesn't make it any less lazy or bad writing. Also, this assumes that they will explain it or just assume that Viewers are Morons and drop it like all the other plotlines.

I'm not trying to be negative, but, while the show has great character interaction (Go Regina-Emma!) that they've developed over the last few seasons, the writers haven't instilled much faith...

It's actually the opposite of lazy or bad writing.

Or rather, having too many storylines is the opposite of lazy, it's overreaching. And trying to fit in another season-long character arc would be bad writing when you already have too much going on.

It's preferable to make people wait for an explanation (which, frankly, most people probably don't really recognize a need for in the first place, since if they recognize Will it means they watched Wonderland, which obviously not a lot of people did or it would still be on itself) than to shoehorn in more storylines than you can handle.

And I'm not saying that applies to the other stories (although, now that I think about it, I never really considered Mulan/Aurora "unfinished"; it was just a bit of character development for people whose stories were pretty much done), but I think it does in the case of Will.

edited 15th Sep '15 9:50:44 PM by BadWolf21