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iamthecircle Pretentious Scholar of English from The Armpit of the Bible Belt Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
Pretentious Scholar of English
#2826: Aug 31st 2014 at 6:12:29 PM

Eh, the Oz arc in retrospect was obviously just there to pad out the rest of the season.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2827: Aug 31st 2014 at 6:18:15 PM

The Wicked Witch would have made for a great Arc Villain if she wasn't related to The Evil Queen. So much of her character revolves around hating The Evil Queen, Trying to one-up The Evil Queen, trying to ruin The Evil Queen's life, etc. Zelena was the Teitoku Kakine to Regina's Accelerator.

Crewe Li'l Punk from Gravity Falls, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010
Li'l Punk
#2828: Aug 31st 2014 at 6:23:50 PM

Oh hey, someone else who liked the Neverland arc.

Peter Pan was just so great.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2829: Aug 31st 2014 at 6:25:23 PM

Easily one of the best villains the show produced. The Neverland arc was just very good to watch.

Crewe Li'l Punk from Gravity Falls, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010
Li'l Punk
#2830: Aug 31st 2014 at 6:27:25 PM

Much agreed.

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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#2831: Aug 31st 2014 at 6:28:21 PM

It dragged on too much for my tastes.

I liked Pan don't get me wrong I would have just liked more variety.

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#2832: Aug 31st 2014 at 7:35:41 PM

Peter Pan as a heartless scumbag just worked. It was a real bloody nose to the view of Pan as a good guy who just wants people to loosen up.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#2833: Aug 31st 2014 at 7:37:05 PM

An image that is all Disney's invention, by the way, as the Pan of the book is a nasty little imp.

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#2834: Aug 31st 2014 at 7:44:29 PM

Good. Getting back to the roots of it. I'll have to read that at some point then.

lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#2835: Aug 31st 2014 at 8:10:58 PM

@Zalina revolving around the Queen,

I think that was the point. She existed to show how much Ragina has grown since Season 1. The issue is, that was ALL she was. I also feel like Oz became a tool just to bring Unknown Villain into the show.

Which is sad because Oz has so much potential. Could you imagine something like, Oz going to war with the Enchanted Forrest or something? That could have been awesome! But all of Oz's lore went to waste for my tastes.

The Neverland Arc was only interesting because of Pan and everyone else felt bland to me; The Poisoned Prince plot pissed me off so much and Henry was still an annoying little shit. I also grew tired of the same sets constantly.

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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#2836: Aug 31st 2014 at 8:39:43 PM

Pan was a good villain but the wandering around the forest for 10 episodes was tedious.

The best thing about the OZ arc was the last 5 minutes....

edited 31st Aug '14 8:41:17 PM by nightwyrm_zero

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#2837: Aug 31st 2014 at 10:30:15 PM

I really liked the Neverland arc too, and Pan's villainy made sense.

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Maridee from surfside Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#2838: Sep 1st 2014 at 10:41:23 AM

this show tends to have really good villains overall, I think.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2839: Sep 1st 2014 at 12:41:03 PM

Yeah, really I think the only bad ones have been Zelena and Tamara.

GeekCodeRed Did you know this section has a character limit? from A, A, B, B, A Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#2840: Sep 1st 2014 at 1:24:34 PM

To be fair, I loved Emma and Tamara's fight scene in "Second Star To The Right".

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iamthecircle Pretentious Scholar of English from The Armpit of the Bible Belt Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
Pretentious Scholar of English
#2841: Sep 1st 2014 at 9:14:33 PM

Oh yeah Tamara, sucked ass through and through. I think Zelana's problem was more wasted potential than anything. They clearly didn't want that arc to last any longer than half a season or care enough to make her really really compelling. Like some cool ideas are there, but I don't think any of them are fully developed.

I don't know, could they not really come up with a cool mini arc? Or at least one that felt fully developed?

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#2842: Sep 2nd 2014 at 12:55:17 AM

I like how we learn about the characters' past over time, especially Charming and Snow White. Even in season 3 we're learning another piece of their history.

Sadly the villains are predictable. I wonder if we have to keep going with this one villain for half a season thing for the rest of the series.

Maridee from surfside Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#2843: Sep 2nd 2014 at 5:28:16 AM

It can be done, I just hope they balance it out better.

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Sisi Sisi from Toronto Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#2844: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:10:41 AM

Season 4 teaser here:

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edited 2nd Sep '14 7:15:02 AM by Sisi

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lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#2845: Sep 2nd 2014 at 1:01:38 PM

[up]I think I needed some chips to go with all that cheese.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#2846: Sep 2nd 2014 at 2:57:54 PM

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Somebody tell Kermit to call the fuck down.

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#2847: Sep 2nd 2014 at 4:57:39 PM

Does anyone else find it odd that they're all wearing their fairy tale clothes in the real world? I don't think they've ever done that before.

lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#2848: Sep 2nd 2014 at 5:05:17 PM

I highly doubt its canon. Its just marketing and their Fairy Tale Clothes are more iconic than normal attire.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#2849: Sep 2nd 2014 at 5:24:55 PM

I figured as much as well.

Regina really shouldn't complain: It's her fault this shit keeps happening cause she cast the first curse.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2850: Sep 2nd 2014 at 6:03:46 PM

Yeah, I figured it was marketing in the first place when Else started strolling down Storybroke in broad daylight.


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