American Horror Story

I would put (so far, haven't seen all of Season 3) Season 1 and 3 at about the same, pretty good but not great. S2 was however definitely the best to date.

edited 30th Jan '14 2:12:29 PM by tricksterson

Asylum was fantastic.

Murder House and Coven were about the same, tbh, though I prefer Murder House because it's a) shorter and b) was far, far more bathetic than Coven.

Coven was awful, narcissistic, self-indulgent crap, and not in an amusing way. It was just so fucking boring.

edited 30th Jan '14 2:49:06 PM by Nicknacks

I heard people discussing at school something about next season being Nazis in the 1940s or something?

And then I heard someone about a Carnival?

I'll be honest, when I saw Fiona getting up in what was later revealed to be her hell... I thought it was the Country House from Asylum. So disappointed when it wasn't because that could have been interesting.

Bathetic?

The Carnival theme has been nixed by Murphy, and the season will take place primarily in 1950.

edited 31st Jan '14 5:32:00 AM by PersonalPOV

I still want all science fiction for the next season. Not that alien B-plot shit from Asylum, I want Event Horizon or Cthulhu Mythos.

I have to say that Coven was disappointing compared to the other series, just because it seemed like the plot was really underdeveloped compared to the other seasons. Cordelia being the new Supreme and not realizing it until the end of the series because her mother was an abusive and oppressive bitch feels like an Ass Pull to me.

It also really me that nothing became of the baby that Marie kidnapped that wound up being kidnapped by Spaulding in return.

I also have a bone to pick with how they killed off Misty so anticlimactically. I know she was a pretty nice person, but she got burnt at the stake and revived herself, only for her inability to get over the memory of having to cut up a frog for science class does her in? Come on. Also the jocularity of the scene where Madison's personal hell was being in a live TV version of The Sound of Music. Sure, it was kinda funny, but I figured it'd more likely be, oh, I dunno, being gang raped or abused/exploited by her parents as a child star. If you need me, I'll be over here, banging my head up against the wall over that part...

It's possible she was lying, but as we all know, she's not that good of an actress.

Also the fact that they did nothing with Nan after they showed her going... somewhere with Papa Legba. And also the general waste of Evan Peters.

edited 31st Jan '14 8:18:01 PM by BearyScary

No more than men would, so hey. Equal rights ftw.

I always saw it as exploring the dark side of female power. "Power" in the Lady Macbeth sense — men talk a good game, but are ultimate cowed by assertive women, because they're just plain more determined and scary. It's also interesting to see women fighting over unadulterated power, and not something puerile like men, or top billing in a burlesque joint, or whatever.

In short, I think you're interpreting it a bit literally.

Zoe's worst nightmare was being rejected by her boyfriend. Uh...

Yeah. One would think killing her first boyfriend would be something more tormenting for her... but no. It had to be that.

Also, this season needed more warlocks!

The biggest problem I had with the last episode, besides everything you guys said ("In Hell, my boyfriend was breaking up with me!" my ass) is that it just had no conflict. I mean, every antagonist, the voodoo practitioners, Hank and the witch hunters, the Minotaur, the Axeman, the Christian neighbour and Kathy Bates were already dead by the penultimate episode, and Fiona faked her death to... do nothing until the last minute and then die for real. So what if they need to find who the next Supreme is? It's not like there's any sense of urgency, so who cares?

Also, some of the cast, especially Kathy Bates and Evan Peters, were really underused.

I think we're meant to be worried about Madison playing dirty, but she was taken out like a chump. (In a fairly ugly reference to the actress's contemporary scandals, I thought).

Nice avatar btw.

I would argue that Peters was far more underused. Bates really made the best with the screentime she had, proving how someone who looks like a middle-aged mother can still be very intimidating and disturbing.

I'd also like to know what kind of witch can't even do divination. That feels like it should be Witch 101.

edited 1st Feb '14 2:15:53 PM by BearyScary

I'm just confused as to why the trip to Hell was the fourth trial, and not the final one. Of all of them, that seemed the most obviously dangerous.

Oh, she's been proving that for years. Large swathes of her plot this season was just Misery fan-service. (Misery-porn?)

edited 1st Feb '14 8:32:32 PM by Nicknacks

Remember how that divination task Madison failed was to find the item that belonged to Anna Leigh whatever, the Supreme Fiona killed?

I was actually expecting Even Peter's character to somehow turn out to be the Supreme when he was crying over his dead girlfriend.

The ENTIRE season was full of undeveloped hot messes; one right after the other.

Zoe's death by sex 'power' never comes back again.

La Laurie just sort of jumped between looking for redemption and then being a nasty bitch before just confirming she's a nasty piece of work and being killed. She just didn't really do anything.

The Axeman turned from an Axe-Murderer into a Love Interest? And subsequently didn't really do much and I actually cared little for the romance plot there. It... bothered me. I didn't feel much chemistry there.

Misty was killed off randomly. We had no foreshadowing on anything related to her death. Additionally, Zoe and Maddison's trips into hell weren't shown and... not that hellish. I've been dumped in relationships and I've been in shows where I've desperately wanted the leads for (Though Lesile is a lead in Sound of Music). Heck, I'm in such a show now and I can think of more hellish times in my life.

Maddison had a stupid death and it felt like the writer's just didn't know what else to do with her.

I felt like I knew nothing about Zoe and she had her good moments, such as the Zombie Chainsaw Massacre, but they ultimately amounted to nothing. Her character in Murder House had more depth because not all of her character there was focused on her love interest.

Maddison's gang rape, falling into a very big pitfall of writing and one you should never do, is never mentioned ever again.

Also, I found it stupid that, escentially, she's killed because she's going to reveal the coven... Only for Cordelia to reveal the coven to the world anyway.

The show just never developed any of its ideas. At least Murder House developed most of what it had. Asylum was the best of the three though, by far. Nothing beats Sister Satan.

OK, so for the next season they're apparently setting themselves up for a whole lot of comparisons to Carnivàle, a battle they will almost assuredly lose.

...I guess I'm the only person who liked Coven. Asylum was better. But Coven wasn't horrible in my opinion.

I liked it too.

I wouldn't say it was good, but It was interesting to see the Ryan murphy attempted the magic school Genre.

Apparently 'witch chic' is quite in right now if the residents of Newtown are anything to go by.

x4 A stream of my reactions to that

A fallen angel? The carny will have an angel?

She looks sad. I wonder how she wound up there.

Uh-oh, creepy mime-clown

GAAAH! TAKEITAWAY! TAKEITAWAY! GAAAHHH!!

We have a poster.

I've been a fan since Murder House (PRO TIP: don't watch it if you're pregnant for the first time), but clowns?

Nope. Nope. Nope. I'm out of here.

I'm a big fan of the HBO series Carnevale. So any TV show that draw from that gets a gold star in my book, even though most American horror seasons end up a upper rather disappointing hot mess unfocused plotlines

So this finally confirms once and for all that the anthologies are in the same universe, or at least two of them are.