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I sorta feel bad for the colts at this point.

This isnt a game, its an unmitigated slaughter.
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 102 Linhasxoc, Sun, 23rd Oct '11 7:55:27 PM from Not Green Bay Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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This isn't football, this is pest control!

But yeah, this is hard to watch. I'm actually hardly watching it, it's that bad.
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Its sort of like watching a dynasty explode.
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 104 Buscemi, Sun, 23rd Oct '11 8:14:03 PM from a log cabin
I Am The Walrus
In the second quarter, I said to myself "I wouldn't be surprised to see the Saints get 60 tonight". And it's currently 62-7.

And no, Denver will not have a three-game win streak. Detroit is a much better and the Chiefs' defense was great against Oakland (forcing nine turnovers and returning two interceptions for touchdowns).
Long Live the King
[up]First off, Detroit was a much better team. When they had a running back. They don't have one anymore(especially because Harrison's tumor destroyed that trade deadline deal for a new one). Detroit is going to falter and barely make .500 this season, unless their current running back starts performing magnificently...

Second, relying on turnovers to win is a fools game. Not to mention picking off Kyle Boller and Carson Palmer 3 times each isn't that big of a thing... KC's defense(and offense, for that matter) is mediocre at best.

I'm not saying that it's a sure thing, but honestly, due to the performance of all the teams involved, Denver's chances of having a 3+ game wins streak is higher now than it was this morning...

edited 23rd Oct '11 8:45:51 PM by Swish

 106 Buscemi, Sun, 23rd Oct '11 9:26:37 PM from a log cabin
I Am The Walrus
Detroit is 5-2. Denver is 2-5. Their records are not going to reverse. And besides, Stafford is a much better quarterback than the overhyped Tebow.

And forcing nine turnovers in a game is an excellent performance by the defense. Palmer was supposed to be the Raiders' savior and he throws three interceptions in a quarter and a half (in a game where the Raiders were favored by 6, no less). That's not luck, that's taking action and delivering.
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I burst out laughing during the Colts-Saints game when they cut away from the game to show game footage of Andrew Luck.
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Long Live the King
Detroit is 5-2. Denver is 2-5. Their records are not going to reverse. And besides, Stafford is a much better quarterback than the overhyped Tebow.

I'm sorry... How long have you been watching the NFL?

Every year there is a team that starts out the season around 5-2, and then just dies(just like every year a team starts roughly 2-4 and then makes the playoffs* ).

The Lions will be the team that falters this year. Stafford may be a good QB, but so far he's been incapable of winning a game without a running back(unlike some other "good" QBs out there). "Megatron" can only get you so many points... And the Defense has to show up too. The Lions are done...

That said, I don't think the Broncos will turn it completely around. They'll get to 7-9 or 8-8 though... With a long enough streak of wins(these next 2, for a streak of 3 are all but garaunteed the way Detroit and Oakland are playing) for fans to delude themselves with "See, if Tebow had been our full-time QB, we'd have made the playoffs."

And forcing nine turnovers in a game is an excellent performance by the defense. Palmer was supposed to be the Raiders' savior and he throws three interceptions in a quarter and a half (in a game where the Raiders were favored by 6, no less). That's not luck, that's taking action and delivering.

Forcing 9 turnovers in a game is luck. Both good luck for one team, and bad luck for the other. There is an amount of skill involved, I'll agree, but luck is the primary factor when it comes to turnovers.

But again, getting turnovers from quarterbacks like Kyle Boller and Carson Palmer is like taking candy from a baby. Any team can do it. I mean, really... People need to stop looking at defenses that perform against about half the quarterbacks in the league and claiming it proves the defense is good. I mean, Pittsburgh has the #1 pass defense in the league... But no one in their right mind would claim that they'll stop Brady from shredding them next week, based on their performance thus far...

Tebow's no Brady, and such a comparison is beyond stupid... But he's far better than Carson Palmer and Kyle Boller...

edited 23rd Oct '11 10:32:21 PM by Swish

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As a Cards fan, the season ist now uver.
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Grin and bear it
The Lions will be the team that falters this year. Stafford may be a good QB, but so far he's been incapable of winning a game without a running back(unlike some other "good" Q Bs out there). "Megatron" can only get you so many points... And the Defense has to show up too. The Lions are done...

I wouldn't say they're done, but they do have a pretty tough schedule ahead of them (GB twice, SD, Chicago, among others). Losing two straight at home didn't help matters.

We'll see if Detroit and Denver are going in the directions you're saying, because they play each other on Sunday.

Tebow's no Brady, and such a comparison is beyond stupid... But he's far better than Carson Palmer and Kyle Boller...

No. You can't compare him to them. Tebow's started three games in total. Three. Palmer and Boller have more experience and talent than him (from a pure NFL level). And let's face it; for about 55 minutes yesterday he sucked.

I will give you that once Denver let him loose and stopped worrying about running the ball every time, he played pretty damn well. But they were also playing against Miami, who is really close to finding themselves with a new coach within the next two weeks (my guess, anyway). He's not going to be able to make up a 15-point comeback in five minutes against any halfway-decent team.

Based off of yesterday's game, we still don't have any idea if he's going to be a long-term solution to the Broncos.

edited 24th Oct '11 10:43:10 AM by Arctimon

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Regardless of that, this will be a season long remember. But I don't know if it should be for the right reasons or the wrong ones.

At least they do have a season, unlike the NBA.
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 112 Linhasxoc, Mon, 24th Oct '11 3:40:43 PM from Not Green Bay Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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Fun fact: If the playoffs were held today, all four wild-card spots would be taken by teams from the conferences' respective North divisions. The NFC would have the Lions and Bears, while the AFC would have the Steelers and Bengals.

Also under this scenario: the Packers could conceivably play, as their two playoff opponents, the Bears followed by the Lions.

EDIT: as of Tuesday, the Ravens are no longer in the playoffs. tongue

edited 25th Oct '11 4:14:19 AM by Linhasxoc

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Long Live the King
No. You can't compare him to them. Tebow's started three games in total. Three. Palmer and Boller have more experience and talent than him (from a pure NFL level). And let's face it; for about 55 minutes yesterday he sucked.

First

While I'll admit I'm probably biased, as a Pittsburgh fan, I disagree with this. Palmer(since his '06 knee injury) and Boller(since, well, ever) are not even close to "quality" NFL QBs. In fact, I'd say Tebow is playing just as well as Boller did during his stint in Baltimore. The difference between the two would be Tebow doesn't have Baltimore's defense helping the team...

And yes, for 55 minutes, he sucked. But he didn't hurt his team by throwing an interception or fumbling the ball.

Based off of yesterday's game, we still don't have any idea if he's going to be a long-term solution to the Broncos.

Based off of yesterdays game? You're right. Based on his 4 prior performances(3 starts and last week against the Chargers), still no... But based on the Broncos' offensive performances with Tebow and with Orton(over the past 2 years), we can say that the offense is clearly better off with Tebow as QB than with Orton, though...

edited 24th Oct '11 7:22:29 PM by Swish

 114 Buscemi, Mon, 24th Oct '11 8:45:43 PM from a log cabin
I Am The Walrus
Tebow was good for five minutes against a winless team. That is not a quality game.

Stop being such a fanboy.
Long Live the King
Who said it was a quality game? You are reading things that aren't printed, and seeing things that don't exist...

I am anything but a Tebow fanboy, but I'm certainly not a hater... I am being fair in regards to the Tebow subject(though, admittedly optimistic about his future based on his performance in 5 games) unlike most here.

@Linhasxoc: Thank you. You adequately cursed the Ravens. tongue

They are no longer in the playoffs with your link(when it's updated later tonight or tomorrow), due to their loss today. And Pittsburgh controls the AFC North.evil grin

edited 24th Oct '11 9:07:54 PM by Swish

To be fair, it was a combination of the Jaguar Defense playing ridiculously well (that last minute pick was, as my roommate put it, him reading the play like an open book) and the Ravens offense flummoxing up at every opportunity.

edited 24th Oct '11 9:10:55 PM by Midgetsnowman

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Long Live the King
[up]More like Scobee being a great kicker(Four for four with three 50+ yard kicks)...

And I honestly don't like those "combo of" statements when it involves two different teams... Either the Jaguars had a great defensive effort or the Ravens offense gave the game away. Mostly due to the fact that saying the latter implies that it doesn't matter that the Jaguars played really good defense, because if the Ravens' offense doesn't play so crappy, the Ravens would win(which, honestly, I'd agree with)...

I just don't see how one can have it both ways...

edited 24th Oct '11 9:45:09 PM by Swish

It was a bit of both, is the thing. a lot of the Ravens offense waqs entirely shut down by the Jaguars. But at the same time, the Ravens made at least a couple completely retarded plays.
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Gunpla is amazing!
Watching the Lions go from 5-0 to possibly self destructing (again) is painful to watch...

Well at least the Red Wings are awesome as ever. Shame no one in this country gives a shit about Hockey sad

Decemberist
Colts:

Y DO U SUCK?
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I'd imagine because they built their entire game strategy around Manning.
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 122 Accela, Tue, 25th Oct '11 11:14:04 AM from one of my story's worlds
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My dad is a Redskins fan and has been one for over 30 years.

Needless to say, he's rather depressed right now.
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 123 Seventy Seven, Tue, 25th Oct '11 2:04:17 PM from Somewhere in the US
A number
I can relate. I'm also a Skins fan... though I can hardly say that this is surprising.
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 124 Linhasxoc, Tue, 25th Oct '11 2:56:06 PM from Not Green Bay Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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My cousin's husband is a Redskins fan. Another cousin's husband is a Colts fan. I can't imagine they're happy. Both of these cousins are, of course, Packers fans.
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Decemberist
Sigh,

I thought the Cards would have a shot in the NFC Worst this year and I did't expect the Niners to be 5-1.
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