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Deconstructing Marvel Style Mutants:

 26 Oh So Into Cats, Fri, 30th Sep '11 2:47:38 PM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Yeah, what Rascal said. From what you've said so far, this does not sound like a deconstruction at all.
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 27 Zolnier, Fri, 30th Sep '11 4:54:56 PM from A suspiciously dull shop
The Odd Lad
Well, one thing I want to deconstruct is the idea present in X-men that seems to suggest any regulations on mutants is bad.[up][up]Like the idea.
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Jojo's Bizarre Adventure had a Stand user (some kind of psychic mutant, don't ask me) be a dog.

Which was awesome.

That said, I don't care about the power. Power is only one part of the story, and not even the most important part.

The most important part is what are you deconstructing? Regulation against mutants? Seems to me like that's a weak theme to carry upon.

Instead, look at the X-Men themselves. They are powerful. They are rich. They are handsome and beautiful, and have stood shoulder-to-shoulder to titans and consorted with gods.

But they are hated. Why is this so?
 
 29 Zolnier, Fri, 30th Sep '11 8:15:30 PM from A suspiciously dull shop
The Odd Lad
Well one of the main things with the X-men is why they are hated and the Fantastic Four are adored. Not sure how to work that in.
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 30 Riotous Rascal, Sat, 1st Oct '11 8:37:45 AM from AUSTRALIAAAAAAAAAAA
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Because they're a bunch of dicks.

No, really, that's it. The Fantastic 4 as well as the X-men, but it's the mutants we're talking about here.

We have people with awesome powers - immunity to all diseases, immortality, flight, psychic powers, whatever. These powers aren't magic - manifestly the entire point of the X-men premise is that their abilities are the result of mutations, not crazy supernatural shit. (Things like the Phoenix excluded.) If the potential is in their DNA, it means that these abilities can be replicated.

Can you imagine the immense public backlash there'd be if Reed Richards Is Useless was actually in effect in the real world? If scientists got a chance to get a look at the DNA of, say, Wolverine, just think of the potential! Immortality. Curing all illnesses. The X-men don't have to hand themselves in to the government to be dissected or anything - Xavier probably has the resources to do it in-house. But he doesn't. That's the point here.

Imagine if a pharmaceutical company had developed a universal vaccine, but it wasn't releasing it. People would go apeshit. Multiply that by about a thousand. Pretty much all of humanity's biological, social and environmental problems could be solved in one fell swoop if the mutants actually gave a shit, but they don't. The knowledge gained by scientific analysis of Mutant DNA would be the greatest innovation since writing, except that these mutants aren't going to let that happen because it infringes on their rights.

You know what people will say to that? "Screw you, and screw your rights." There are millions, no, billions of people in the world whose lives could be improved if Marvel-style mutants weren't such a bunch of selfish dicks. If preventing the deaths of millions means causing inconvenience to a couple hundred people, there's not even a decision to be made.

That's the sort of deconstruction I'd like to read.

edited 1st Oct '11 8:39:14 AM by RiotousRascal

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 31 Zolnier, Sat, 1st Oct '11 8:53:21 AM from A suspiciously dull shop
The Odd Lad
Also, how does Professor X expect humans to exist with mutants in a completely equal society. At best you'd have this society where humans are just "taken care of" until they just die out because of ennui, imagine if there was an ever growing population of people with superpowers, normals will feel immensely left out.
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 32 Red Wren, Sat, 1st Oct '11 9:29:08 AM from False Dawn
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Having a superpower does not mean having the intelligence to use it reasonably, or the creativity to use it well.
 33 Zolnier, Sat, 1st Oct '11 9:33:10 AM from A suspiciously dull shop
The Odd Lad
Did have this idea for a section where a wannabe Professor X recruits the kids into his "school" Anything about Superhero School(s) of the X-men mold that seems very stupid? Like making all the kids have combat training.
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Combat training doesn't sound bad.

I mean if you're born with a hand that shoots guns, you might as well learn to shoot the guns accurately.
 
 35 Oh So Into Cats, Sat, 1st Oct '11 4:32:52 PM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Aside from the fact that mutants are persecuted and are likely to get beat up, I mean, what's the point of combat training? You have your combat-trained army of superpowered freaks, wouldn't that just make the public hate you more? Sure, if you can shoot laser beams out of your eyes it would be useful to see what you can do with them, but is learning kung fu and how to handle a mini gun really necessary?
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OSIC and Kraken make good points: so far, it feels like you're playing the mutant thing pretty straight. If it were a deconstruction, there would be consequences for having superpowers outside of just being Cursed with Awesome.
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 37 Merlo, Sat, 1st Oct '11 4:38:39 PM from the masochist chamber
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It would make sense if your "wannabe Professor X" was more like Magneto. Or even just a regular crime lord or some other person who would want to have a loyal army of superhumans.
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 38 Zolnier, Sat, 1st Oct '11 6:31:38 PM from A suspiciously dull shop
The Odd Lad
Plus aren't there a lot of mutants who have powers more suited to things othe than combat.
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Plus aren't there a lot of mutants who have powers more suited to things othe than combat.

so make some up it helped Wild Cards, no?

 40 Zolnier, Sun, 2nd Oct '11 3:17:04 AM from A suspiciously dull shop
The Odd Lad
So, something I noticed in X-men. All countries seem to treat mutants the same.
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Polite smartass.
Good point. With America as the seat of the Golden Age comics and other superhero phenomenon, it's not too hard to believe that mutants could be celebrities in the US rather than pariahs.
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 42 Teraus, Wed, 5th Oct '11 7:53:39 PM from The Origin of Dreams
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Though I actually do like the X-men, I tend to really dislike characters that obtain incredible powers effortlessly.
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 43 Zolnier, Wed, 5th Oct '11 9:04:17 PM from A suspiciously dull shop
The Odd Lad
Once someone in th comics said that it was unreasonable to not let mutants into normal schools, you can guess why that's stupid.
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