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China Launches its First Space Lab:

 26 Game Chainsaw, Thu, 29th Sep '11 5:25:08 PM from sunshine and rainbows!
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Anyway, what could the potential research develop that is useful to humanity in practice? Beyond giving us even more flashy ways to blow one another to bits over who gets what patch of land?
 27 USAF713, Thu, 29th Sep '11 5:31:40 PM from the United States
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Depends on whether or not China is willing to share and play nice. If not, well, that depends first on whether you have money to spare.

~sigh~

If only the US Government wasn't so spectacularly stupid, inept, and hostile to the international community...
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 28 pvtnum 11, Thu, 29th Sep '11 5:47:58 PM from Kerbin low orbit Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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I wouldn't be so quick to ask for weapons testing in LEO, guys.
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Yes, I was about to say that. Don't blow the thing up god damn it. You're risking devastating our orbital facilities.

 30 USAF713, Thu, 29th Sep '11 7:20:54 PM from the United States
This is good. Space is cool. Also, I hope we do militarize space. We're gonna need the death lasers for when we meet the Klingons.

Good News for American Tropers :

China had choose "America the Beautiful" as background music for Celebrating the launch of Tiangong-1

To mark the launch [of the Tiangong-1 space lab], the Chinese space agency and China Central Television (CCTV) released a proud animation, set to rousing orchestral strains, of the "Heavenly Palace" thrusting skyward, lofting above the Earth and docking with a Shenzhou crew capsule. The only problem being that the backing music in question is America the Beautiful – more or less an unofficial national anthem of the United States. The Guardian spotted the blunder after picking up the video from the Reuters news agency while covering the launch.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/09/how-can-you-not-love-this/245927/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/30/china-launch-america-the-beautiful

 33 USAF713, Fri, 30th Sep '11 8:51:11 PM from the United States
I changed accounts.
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I want to say "those kiss-asses with backstabbing knives behind their backs, " but damn, that's just too cool to disparage...
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 34 Major Tom, Fri, 30th Sep '11 8:51:24 PM Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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Are they so uncreative they have to steal other people's anthems for their own shit? (Given that I heard they stole used a Command & Conquer: Generals music track for their Olympic anthem a couple years ago this seems plausible.)
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 35 USAF713, Fri, 30th Sep '11 8:55:34 PM from the United States
 36 Joesolo, Sat, 1st Oct '11 12:23:17 AM Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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Even if Obama copts out of getting nasa to go back to the mmon, if nothing else the next pres. could have them jump to Mars. Give china a feeling of "oh yea, the moon. BEAT YOU BY 60 YEARS! We're already on Mars!"

Speaking of which, i really think we should go for larger, radiation sheilded ships instead of little rockets for inter-planetary travel. fit them with ion engines and solar pannels, and have some sort of farm section for oxygen and food. keep air scrubber of course, but make the lannder and the main ones compatible, just in case we need to pull a Apollo 13.

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 37 Major Tom, Sat, 1st Oct '11 6:30:53 AM Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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i really think we should go for larger, radiation sheilded ships

The Saturn V series was radiation shielded. Sufficient for travel to the Moon which is no different than a trip to Mars sans duration of travel.

We knew all about cosmic radiation in 1969.
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To mark the launch [of the Tiangong-1 space lab], the Chinese space agency and China Central Television (CCTV) released a proud animation, set to rousing orchestral strains, of the "Heavenly Palace" thrusting skyward, lofting above the Earth and docking with a Shenzhou crew capsule. The only problem being that the backing music in question is America the Beautiful – more or less an unofficial national anthem of the United States. The Guardian spotted the blunder after picking up the video from the Reuters news agency while covering the launch.

Ow. That is so snide it actually hurts.

 39 De Marquis, Sat, 1st Oct '11 6:50:48 AM from Hell, USA Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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Long term a space station, manned or unmanned (and this one is unmanned for now) is most useful as a platform for maintaining more sophisticated satellites in orbit. We used the space shuttle for that, but that was an expensive mistake. The Chinese are being smarter than we were. So once they get the space station technology working, I expect another generation of Chinese satellites.
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Well the space programme only truly gets to its most expensive part when they start doing things that haven't been done before, like trying to get to Mars. I believe they wanted the space lab to be manned by 2012, which is pretty damn soon. I'm a little surprised at the aggressive plan.

Lets hope this sparks a space race. But lets hope this thread doesnt turn into a "China gets an aircraft carrier".

When the Chinese get to the moon, we should be on our way to mars.

USA!USA!USA!

edited 2nd Oct '11 2:22:17 PM by Baff

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 42 USAF713, Sun, 2nd Oct '11 2:21:16 PM from the United States
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[up] Nah, because we already did all the work. Knowing the Chinese, they'll send an exact replica of the Apollo stuff up, but with some little doodad added and with a different name.
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it will take them (or took them, I dont really understand what u meant) 60 years anyways.

edited 2nd Oct '11 2:23:52 PM by Baff

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 44 USAF713, Sun, 2nd Oct '11 2:26:37 PM from the United States
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China doesn't make its own military technology, Baff. It just copies (or, if one is lucky, buys) things that other people make.

China is the ultimate IP pirate...
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 45 FF Shinra, Sun, 2nd Oct '11 2:37:20 PM from Ivalice, apparently Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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They copy Russian tech for space, not American. The lab they're sending up looks like a modernized Mir.
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In my view USAF even if they copy our technology, that still doesnt change the reality of them getting a hold of space exploration and leaving the US behind.

After all, the US copied its rocket technology from German scientists.

But dont worry, China will eventually produce more geniuses than the population of the US. And I am not even joking.

edited 2nd Oct '11 2:42:50 PM by Baff

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 47 Major Tom, Sun, 2nd Oct '11 2:43:00 PM Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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After all, the US copied its rocket technology from German scientists.

So did the Soviets.
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no one is saying they didnt.
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 49 Radical Taoist, Sun, 2nd Oct '11 2:56:23 PM from the #GUniverse
scratching at .8, just hopin'
If China is smart, they'll privatize + globalize their space exploration so that the world buys their shuttles from them at a cheaper price than local space programs would cost.

Hello Firefly-verse.

edited 2nd Oct '11 2:56:36 PM by RadicalTaoist

 50 Nohbody, Sun, 2nd Oct '11 5:21:59 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
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^ They're not doing what's effectively the equivalent of the Soviet Union's "Hero Project" (big, flashy national project for the sake of prestige/honor) to push private enterprise, or even anything that can lead to same.

While they may not succeed in it, the PRC's overall goal is advancing the PRC (and by extension the government oligopolies that control a majority of mainland China's industries). I doubt trying to earn points with space geeks is even remotely close to their list of priorities, never mind actually being on that list. tongue

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And for the record, a nation being concerned with advancing itself is not inherently a bad thing. Specific nations and/or specific actions for that advancement may be "bad", however.

edited 2nd Oct '11 5:23:56 PM by Nohbody

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