Todd In The Shadows Thread

I always forget that Britney Spears still actually has a career. And an extremely strong fanbase.

Pillowtalk review is out for patrons.

By the end, he thinks it might be even worse than 7 Years.

"PILLOWTALK" is just another boring Intercourse with You song that doesn't have a lot going for it to justify its existence. I have no idea how it went to #1 in its first week. I mean, it's not even catchy.

edited 20th Jul '16 8:44:55 PM by BurntMario

My guess is that it was Zayn's first solo single, so it had a lot of hype behind it. Notice that it only stayed at #1 for one week before losing the spot to Love Yourself.

The new review is also available for non-Patreons on youtube now. Those that are not region-blocked, that is.

So we'll piss off the hooded maaaaaannn...

edited 21st Jul '16 12:15:50 PM by BurntMario

that was fast

yeah screw you too youtube

Yeah, that song is worthless. Even if I forced myself to listen to every pop hit at least once, that would be one I wouldn't get through. When I got back into pop music in 2011, I'm not gonna pretend everything was great then but I feel like the last couple of years, there's been way too many songs that I can't find worth even a second of my time. It's like Katy Perry's Roar has become super influential.

Todd's pointed out in retrospect 2013 wasn't that bad, and wow does that seem true. At least EDM songs HAVE a chorus and tended to get some good singers. At least folk rock was still getting pop success. At least there were some songs to distract us from the boring and the awful.

Though bizarrely, I kinda like this year's pop songs more than last year's. Even last year's good songs didn't do much for me. Whereas this year's actually do, at least. Even eventually got into 21 Pilots. I also feel like I'm the only person that genuinely likes Rihanna's Work. But I've ignored anything that didn't quickly seem like something I would enjoy so I can't speak about the year as a whole.

What I find odd is that Todd still calls it a horrible song, even after acknowledging the Fridge Brilliance of the concept (it sounds dreary and lifeless because it's sung from the perspective of an exhausted guy in post-coitus).

I guess commenting on how it's meant to be dreary and lifeless doesn't make up for the fact that, well, it's dreary and lifeless.

I can assume it's because he still doesn't find the music itself any more listenable (sounding more like ambient noise than a pop song, lack of hook, etc.), and on the surface it is meant to be about sex, which should make it sound more exciting than it actually does. Perhaps he doesn't think post-sex sleep isn't as interesting a topic as sex itself, especially when it generates dreary, downbeat songs like it.

Given how Todd doesn't find the track even to be a finished song, I suspect he wouldn't like FKA Twigs.

I was anticipating Doris Day’s “Pillow Talk” as the closer, but really, Sylvia’s “Pillow Talk” is the only one that makes sense.

To paraphrase Gene Siskel: "A song that aims low should not be praised for hitting that target"

But fair is fair, not like that druggy-hazey-song-about-sex aesthetic is actually bad:

I think it's like how in the "Want U Back" review Todd acknowledged that the song may possibly have been intended to be from the perspective of a bitchy high school girl, but that didn't make it sound any more pleasing to the ears.

Honestly, the only redeeming factor this song ever had to me was how hilariously stupid that "RECK-A-LISS BEHA-VYUH!" line is in the chorus. Which, for the record, is the only line I can actually understand in the song. Did Zayn suddenly forget how to enunciate once he left 1D? That line that Todd yelled at for being repeated, well, could've fooled me, because I have no idea what he said there.

The lyrics are just goofy all around. Just look at the intro:

"Climb on board

We'll go slow and high-tempo

Light and dark

Hold me hard and mellow "

He's trying to set up contrasts (though I'm not totally sure why) but those two bold ones are such strange words to use as opposites to their paired word that I have to laugh every time I hear it.

edited 23rd Jul '16 8:39:50 PM by achilles_heel

That's cool and all, but I'm still trying to figure out what he says in that line where it sounds like he's saying "fuck it in". what like is this what he means?

"Fuckin' and fightin' on," as I understand it. Again, not sure why it's there, but I think that's what it is.

Because I can't remember the song, every time I read "Want U Back", I think of the Jackson 5 song. Not the crappy pop song people are talking about. I wanna say that title sounds familiar, but I can't remember anything about it, my mind immediate goes to the Jackson 5 song.

I think of the N'sync one.

It has a lot of grunting in it if that reminds you at all.

that makes it even dumber whaaaat

Nah, still not ringing a bell. I'm thinking of a few songs with grunts in em, but none called "Want U Back".

Maybe my mind blocked it out or something.

I keep thinking of Dave Mustaine grunting.

Todd talks about the "Call Me Maybe" of the '90s.