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secrety depressed... a cliche?:

Element of love
I have heard a lot that whenever a character is portrayed as happy almost always everyone will assume that he/she is secretly depressed.

now considering this—-> Step Ford Smiler. Most of the time they are right.

Do you think this has become a cliche? or or is it just fans proyecting themselves towards the character?

edited 26th Sep '11 6:06:09 PM by FallenLegend

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 2 Morven, Mon, 26th Sep '11 6:22:12 PM from Seattle, WA, USA
A bit of both. The thing is, there's some truth in this stereotype; some of the people who are the most Pollyanna about the "I'm happy, the world is good, everything's blissful" are not happy people underneath, but are trying really hard to pretend otherwise.

On the other hand, some people are just happy.

An interesting trope to play with, i think.
A brighter future for a darker age.
 3 Night, Mon, 26th Sep '11 6:43:16 PM from PSNS Intrepid Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Who you are does not matter.
I tend to think projecting, but my standards of evidence are a lot higher than most fans.
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 4 nrjxll, Mon, 26th Sep '11 6:52:43 PM Relationship Status: Not war
I'm not certain how "cliche" and "projecting" are meant to be mutually exclusive, but I actually think the primary cause is a sort of True Art Is Angsty mentality among many fans - the idea that an "angsty/dark" work is inherently better then a "happy" work.

This is why we get what seems like a larger proportion of Dark Fic among more idealistic works (although that's also a matter of contrast - Dark Fic can't really exist if the original work is already very dark), and why it seems like "depressing" Wild Mass Guessing is more common among works that it's very unlikely to be true in then anywhere else. I think that there is a mindset among fans that holds a character who only pretends to be happy while being secretly depressed to be somehow better then a character who really is happy all the time.

edited 26th Sep '11 6:53:11 PM by nrjxll

 5 Wheezy, Mon, 26th Sep '11 7:09:05 PM from Tampa, FL. Again.
(That Guy You Met Once)
[up] Well, that's because no one's happy all the time.

It's impossible, so you can only assume that someone who acts that way is putting it on.

edited 26th Sep '11 7:10:15 PM by Wheezy

 6 Night, Mon, 26th Sep '11 8:41:14 PM from PSNS Intrepid Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Who you are does not matter.
A questionable assertion at best. tongue

Besides, nobody's actually made the assertion you're arguing against.

edited 26th Sep '11 8:41:28 PM by Night

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 7 chihuahua 0, Mon, 26th Sep '11 8:48:16 PM from Standoff, USA Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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Well, there could be a condition out there...

 8 Sand Josieph, Tue, 27th Sep '11 12:26:07 AM from Grand Galloping Galaday Relationship Status: Brony
Bigonkers! is Magic
I've always liked to think that a funny series is actually far more serious underneath the surface. And I don't mean the dark kind of serious. I mean the structure kind of serious. The whole series may be insanely goofy and funny and upbeat, but it's plotted well, the characters goofy actions are taken seriously in that their actions have a cause and effect, and that the overlying message is presented in a coherent style. The story could be as ridiculous as a young girl suddenly gaining the power to transmutate into water when she gets clobbered on the head with a rogue baseball bat and still have a good sound foundation.
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