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See ALL the stars!I'm writing a Twenty Minutes In The Future work ATM, and a concept that's become fairly interwoven into the world is the idea of computer-assisted social interaction. (Of course, the AI in question is very good at this.) One offshoot idea of this I had was that I'd end up with a character who is noticably better at social interaction than even a good unaugmented human. Another idea I had was portraying genuine alien ways of thinking and socialisation in a similar way. (There's a bunch of Timey-Wimey Ball marlarkey which results in this race thinking "better" than humans.) How would I go about portraying this sort of thing? One possible way I thought was to delibrately invoke Viewers Are Geniuses, and jump around with large spaces between the "dots" of what the character is talking about. Another possibility was simply having the character be more talkative and visibly intelligent than the first-person narrator, but I don't know how to make sure that the narrator doesn't come out as a Idiot Hero, and how to imply that there's more-than-natural talent behind it. Anyone have any help?
(That Guy You Met Once)I've read this three times and I'm still not sure what you're talking about, TBH. Are you saying computers make you more eloquent than you would be on your own? If so, what does autism have to do with this? Also, are you saying that aliens are interacting with humans via this method? BTW: Just make the narrator talk like a normal person, and the "augmented" guy unusually charismatic and loquacious, sort of like Jack and Tyler Durden, or Evey and V.
edited 26th Sep '11 8:26:10 PM by Wheezy
Ahr river...Oh so it's not just me who is plumb confused?
Blondes Have More FunAbaondon the dots idea. Your poor readers are going to be incredibly confused and it's just too gimmicky to work. To make one character seem more intelligent than your Hero is actually quite simple—allow them to come to conclusions more quickly that your hero does. You can do this in a few ways: have them understand "plot mysteries" more quickly than the hero and explain them, or, have them smugly keep the answers to themselves for the Hero to figure out on his own time. Having a character be smarter than your hero does not have to mean that your hero is an Idiot Hero. Edit to add: I just reread. By social interaction, what exactly do you mean? Are the inherently more empathetic?
edited 27th Sep '11 11:07:09 AM by OriDoodle
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Abaondon the dots idea. Your poor readers are going to be incredibly confused and it's just too gimmicky to work.The original thought was that the narrator would be The Watson, and that would allow me to explain everythihng, but... yes, I can tell it's not a good idea.
Are you saying computers make you more eloquent than you would be on your own? If so, what does autism have to do with this?Not only more eloquent, but "warmer." The computer knows how you want to present yourself* , and so suggests how to behave so that you come off that way. (The arms race involving better and better algorithms for doing this is commented on.) I suppose it translates in trope terms as the My Kung-Fu Is Stronger Than Yours to Politeness Judo, rather than physical Judo. Autism is only vaguely related, because I was thinking in terms of the social problems Autism causes. (Or probably more speciifcally, Asperger's.) If there was a spectrum of social skill that started at severely autistic and got steadily better, I was trying to imagine what happens when you pass "normal" and go out the other side.
Also, are you saying that aliens are interacting with humans via this method?Sort of. Here's the scenario: A) Narrator is a completely unaugmented human, who meets the aliens as part of a team. B) Rest of the human team is socially augmented. C) The aliens are not augmented, (being Iron Age tech level) but do think noticiably differently to unaugmented humans. (For instance, the more social ones can have hundreds of what humans would consider friends.) The plot hinges on the narrator awkwardly getting along with the aliens, (as he appears The Fool) while the augmented humans also get along awkwardly, but for the opposite reason: they fall into the Uncanny Valley a little. (AFYACW is involved, so appearance isn't an issue.) How difficult would this be to pull off, and/or how believable is it?
the it-thingyThe first thing that stands out to me is that the sociability algorithms will be calibrated for a human audience. Depending on the starfishiness of the aliens, that alone may be enough to mess up diplomacy far more than the Uncanny Valley would. (I'm specifically reminded of Sid Meier’s Alpha Centauri, where alien factions and human factions are unable to communicate with each other before they research Social Psychology and Progenitor Psychology respectively.)
“I don't deserve any credit for turning the other cheek as my tongue is always in it.” ― Flannery O'Connor
See ALL the stars!The humans in this setting are Crazy-Prepared, and anticipated that by dropping invisible Sinister Surveillance on them for a few years beforehand. (And then having the AIs digest the resulting film.) Is it believable that that's brought them down from Blue and Orange Morality to Uncanny Valley level?
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