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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#626: Oct 1st 2015 at 11:11:22 AM

You are missing the point, the Aesop of the story is that when it comes to relationships with other people, not taking risks and accepting unsatisfying status quo because it's stable are the way to go! Isn't that a wonderful message to teach young people?

edited 1st Oct '15 11:11:48 AM by Shlugo_the_great

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#627: Oct 1st 2015 at 5:58:40 PM

If it works for Marge Simpson, it should work for anyone!

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#628: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:22:45 PM

[up]x2

There's nothing wrong with sticking to the status quo in terms of relationships if those involved are okay with it.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#629: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:54:04 PM

I don't think it sends a good message. It supports Kodaka's selfishness and also the idea that you shouldn't take risks.

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#630: Oct 2nd 2015 at 5:49:08 AM

You know, I might just be an idiot who completely misunderstood the series themes and has no idea about character development but what I expected in the last volume was for Kodaka to man up, about the fact that he's been acting like an idiot, realize that true friends wouldn't abandon him for getting a girlfriend and go hook up with Sena. And for the rest of them to actually be happy for him, because that's what friends do. That's what I'd call character development. Instead we get this weird ending where he cycles through rejecting all of them, because apparently they are fine with not having him as long as nobody else does, and then things end right where they started with no one receiving much in the way of character development, least of all Kodaka who apparently might never grow up at all. But it's all right because he kept his comfort zone going. Happy end!

Jesus, talk about lukewarm endings.

[up][up]I put the word "unsatisfying" there for a reason.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#631: Oct 2nd 2015 at 8:51:33 AM

[up]x2

Yeah and? It's alright to be selfish sometimes and people shouldn't have to take risk with their relationships if they don't want to.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#632: Oct 2nd 2015 at 10:08:47 AM

Chariot: I don't think you're a good friend if you consistently put your own happiness before that of your supposed friends. I'm not saying Kodaka had to start dating anyone back in volumes 1-8 but he could have just cleanly rejected them instead of stringing them along. But no, everything had to be about his needs.

TooManyIdeas Into Oblivion from Twilight Town Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#633: Jan 22nd 2016 at 11:01:37 AM

Well, this thread isn't quite old enough for posting to be shameful yet...

I'm getting into this series, and I just have a quick question for purposes of fanfic writing. Is Yozora redeemed at all, or does she stay a Jerkass, rendering any attempt at redeeming her to be a futile exercise in Draco in Leather Pants?

My guilty pleasure is redeeming hate sinks, you see.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#634: Jan 22nd 2016 at 11:05:09 AM

In the anime, no, she stay a bitch until the end. The light novel series apparently has her mellow out near the end. Which is terrible for other reasons, so you may not want to bother.

edited 22nd Jan '16 11:05:34 AM by Arha

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