All Purpose Evangelion Fanfiction Thread

I know you have a thing Shinji/Mana.

But girl!Shinji successfully being shipped with anyone has a higher priority for me, regardless of who it is. Why do you think one of the first lemon stories I've ever posted was genderflipped Shinji/Asuka?

I like Mana, yes. I like Mayumi, yes. I like Sakura too. But girl!Shinji is THE BEST. And I'll draw a line in the sand with the Death Star's superlaser and fucking DARE you to tell me otherwise.

Speaking of which, I just had a fic idea involving girl!Shinji.

Gendo had his plans all sorted out and arranged everything. He knows what he wants, he knows how to get it, and he already set things in motion. But when the confrontation between him and Shinji happens in Unit 01's cage, something unexpected happens.

Gendo realizes how much his daughter resembles his wife and loses his nerve.

He's plagued by uncertainty and guilty conscience about doing what he knows he has to do to Shinji, as he feels like he's doing that crap to Yui. But while he's chain-swearing and pacing in his office, he comes upon a solution so simple he wonders how he didn't think about it sooner.

Bring Shinji in on the plan.

Tell her about what happened to Yui. About him wanting to get her back. About how he can do so. About how he needs Shinji to achieve it. Think about it: they both lost the same person, with the loss setting them down on a path to a crappy life. They are also very much alike in personality. Shinji is the only person in the world who can fully understand how Gendo feels. Not only there is a fair chance that Shinji will join forces with him, it will also greatly simplify things if Gendo doesn't have to emotionally manipulate Shinji. Less setbacks, less unexpected events, less chance of a failure. They don't fight but join forces, get Yui back, live as a family ever after. Win-win.

edited 23rd Apr '15 12:57:57 PM by amitakartok

...Let me give you two useful pieces of information.

First. I have no objections to fem-Shinji, just as I have no objections to fem-Kira. My disagreement was with your assessment that fem-Shinji lesbian selfcest (or at least, that's what I concluded from the image you linked) was the ultimate EVA pairing.

Second. That setup is fairly similar to what I have in mind for Devourer 's second half/sequel, Destroyer. But with Mana transferring from EVA-04 over to the EVA-01 pilot seat and working with Gendo so that while he gets an eternity with Yui, she gets her Shinji back.

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Aside from that, I have yet to see anything that ships Shinji with Sakura. But then, I also have yet to watch 3.0.

edited 23rd Apr '15 3:13:34 PM by EvaUnit01

... I have serious doubts that Shinji, whether male or female, would actually condone the Human Instrumentality plan even if it's guaranteed to reunite him with his mother. The only way it could work is if Gendou deliberately deceives him/her so that s/he doesn't know that it will involve committing what amounts to global genocide.

And why exactly would girl!Shinji remind him of Yui strongly enough for him to reconsider her role in his agenda, but Rei does not?

I have one.

Rei's got completely different pigmentation.

edited 23rd Apr '15 3:42:41 PM by amitakartok

Neither Shinji nor Yui were albino. Rei, is.

She's not that pale. And besides skin, eye and hair color, she looks as uncannily similar to Yui as a fem!Shinji would probably be (which isn't a certain thing, BTW. People have noted that young!Gendou bears an uncanny similarity to Shinji in facial structure, and besides, Shinji's design is nothing more than a color swap from Nadia with shorter hair, so a fem!Shinji wouldn't look much different, and male!Shinji does not resemble Yui much).

edited 23rd Apr '15 3:54:48 PM by MarqFJA

Shinji indeed looks more like Gendo than Yui. However, don't underestimate how easily people can get reminded of lost loved ones.

(And stop repeating that "Shinji is just a recolored Nadia" thing. It implies that Shinji has no identity as a character.)

As characters, Shinji and Nadia are very distinct from each other. So, I don't think that's really a concern.

What is my concern is that statements like those sound degrading towards Shinji, implying that he does not have a separate existence of his own but is defined by something else.

Of course he is. Shinji is defined by the people around him and the actions that they take.

We all are.

That's what it is, to be human. Though we may seek to define ourselves, ultimately we are defined by others as much as - or more than - we are able to self-define, because the people around us may have greater insight into us than we ourselves have. And so is the inverse, also true.

More than we define ourselves, we define others, and are defined by others in turn, and each definition is an equally valid expression of the true self.

After all, the Shinji Ikari within Rei Ayanami's mind and the Shinji Ikari within Asuka Sohryu's mind may be very different from the Shinji Ikari within his own mind, but each of their interpretations are equally valid, and they are all equally Shinji Ikari.

edited 23rd Apr '15 4:48:55 PM by EvaUnit01

How would you define me, then? By Eva characters, who do you feel defines me best?

In terms of EVA characters? Fuck, man, I dunno.

I guess maybe Asuka, because I sometimes get a sense of self-destructive perfectionism from you. Except that you're not in denial about it like she is. But in terms of temperament, I get more of a sense that you're Kaji or Ritsuko.

Who would you define me as? Or, hell, Marq?

...Marq is porno-doujinshi!Mari, isn't he.

edited 23rd Apr '15 4:56:14 PM by EvaUnit01

I'd define Marq as Ritsuko, honestly.

You? I have no idea.

Funny you'd pick Kaji for me. I'd describe myself as a Shinji/Kensuke hybrid with a bit of Asuka.

Just got an idea for Rei's backstory in my Eva magical girl story. So far, I went with the idea of Yui having created her after Shinji was taken by Gendo, as a failed replacement; accordingly, she's younger than the rest of the cast.

The new idea? Shinji and Rei are twins. After Shinji was taken, Yui tried implanting Rei with the System 01 symbiote (AKA Unit 01) on the basis that, as Shinji's sister, she should be close enough to work. Turns out she wasn't: the symbiote rejected her, almost killing her in the process. Not only that, but Rei was then subsequently implanted with the System 00 symbiote, only to discover too late that the previous rejection caused her body to develop an allergic reaction to symbiotes. The medication she takes are heavy-duty immunosuppressants, preventing a most-definitely-fatal-this-time autoimmune reaction; by the time of the story, she has no immune system to speak of, relying completely on her symbiote's anti-biowarfare protocols as an improvised substitute.

edited 23rd Apr '15 5:13:13 PM by amitakartok

I don't really know what I am either.

I couldn't find an answer, so I gave up looking.

Honestly? I think the idea of a female Shinji; largely passive, largely quiet, largely controllable, and yet not as alien or as ultimately threatening as Rei...and even at the end, Shinji didn't chose to win; it was handed to him. I think that archetype, as nonthreatening as possible, appeals to you in a woman. And that's kind of disturbing honestly.

And yes, Rei could be threatening from the standpoint of personality; she was willing to kill and to die without hesitation; there were things she was willing to place above her personal survival, happiness, or relationships; she was ultimately uncontrollable; she did kind of end the world; could go on.

I think your first story is more interesting for what it says about you and gender roles (male as aggressor, order restored to universe!) at that time than probably anything in it.

Dude, have you gotten Marq to put out yet? I haven't. He can't be Mari.

edited 23rd Apr '15 7:02:40 PM by Night

I also haven't tried yet.

Marq, get over here so you can defend yourself from our comedic character assassination!

...the heck are you talking about? I'm not a male chauvinist. On the contrary, I like strong female characters. But Shinji's character resonates better with me as female.

There was no gender competition in the aforementioned story either. It was only two chapters long and Asuka only appeared in the second chapter, stealing Shinji's used panties from the laundry then having a wet dream about her.

edited 23rd Apr '15 8:42:31 PM by amitakartok

It's only disturbing IMO if that's the only kind of girl amita finds appealing. Which he says isn't the case. And I'm not inclined to call him a liar.

It may surprise you to know that I identify myself better with Shinji than anyone else... even though my personality is nothing like his. Part of the reason is that we both have horrible fathers.

Take a look at the concept art.

That aside, I said nothing about non-physical resemblances, in which case I think it's very obvious that they're very different.

edited 24th Apr '15 4:47:46 AM by MarqFJA

I'd argue it's less so, but that generally emerges from personal issues rather than existing in a vacuum and so will always retain some level of creepy. (But then, most people are creepy in some way.)

As the saying goes, don't ask a question when you are not prepared for honest answers. Switching the genders in the Shinji/Asuka relationship or switching Shinji's gender is one of those things that says Anno got inside your head successfully; part of the original point was to see how many people wold complain he acts like a girl. Because by the standards of the genre and the time he does. Evangelion was Anno's potshot at the fandom in many ways. The anti-glorification of violence, the This Loser Is You aspects, the reversal of gender roles between hero and love interest for the genre.

The last is relevant here, particularly because it is little different from the average harem comedy. In the context of Evanglion it upsets and angers people, though it's a pretty tame thing compared to Ryoko and Tenchi. Some of that is that in Evangelion we see it as it really is, because without the genre conventions we don't cut it that much slack. But some of that is that Asuka is meant to make us uncomfortable because we couldn't cope with her either when we were Shinji's age.

(This incidentally ties into one of the show's biggest problems; born in large part of what the author's particular neuroses are or the particular ones he chose to target, it fails to connect with anyone not party to those issues. See also: Victory Gundam.)

edited 24th Apr '15 7:16:53 AM by Night

You had something to discuss, amita?

A year or so ago, I pitched the idea of an Eva/Gunbuster crossover here, involving Noriko and Kazumi getting flung into the Evaverse by the Black Hole Bomb. Having seen Interstellar just yesterday, I have an idea how it happens.

For those who haven't seen it, Interstellar has a scene where the protagonists' ship gets gravitationally captured by a black hole and they don't have enough fuel to turn around - so they pull a low-altitude flyby of the black hole, utilizing the Oberth effect to slingshot away from it at higher acceleration than what they have enough fuel for, suffering from fifty years of time dilation in the process.

So I thought, what if Noriko and Kazumi try to do something like that? They are already close enough to the Black Hole Bomb that seconds become decades, so they recognize the need to get out of the gravity well as fast as they can. Now, what prevents them from doing so is that, with only one degeneracy reactor, they don't have enough juice to go any faster. So instead they gain speed by supplementing their own thrusters with a gravity slingshot.

It doesn't exactly work that way, however. Many people don't realize that relativistic time dilation is the reason why the speed of light is unattainable: as you get closer and closer to the speed of light, time dilation gets more severe. You don't see anything different but an external observer will see you moving slower and slower. If you were to pass the speed of light, the external observer will actually see you moving backwards in time, which would break causality.

This is what causes the girls to end up in the Evaverse. A combination of the slingshot maneuver's added acceleration, the Gunbuster's Physical Canceler messing around with physics, and attempting to warp from inside such a brutally strong gravity well causes the Gunbuster to break the lightspeed limit while still in realspace, messing up the warp.

They arrive circa Second Impact. In fact, their arrival is what awakens Adam.

This also incidentally ensures that they cannot go home, as there's no Black Hole Bomb in this universe to replicate the anomaly with, nor are they exactly sure how it happened in the first place.

edited 27th Apr '15 1:52:36 PM by amitakartok

Wait, if their arrival is what awakens Adam, then what happened with the Katsuragi Expedition and it's Contact Experiment? The Spear of Longinus used in said experiment is what caused Adam to fail in its persumed attempt to xenoform the planet (instead "only" causing an Anti-AT Field-powered explosion that shifts the planetary axis, incude a global wave of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, vaporizes the Antarctic ice cap and continent, and consequentially radically alter the global meteorological patterns) and subsequentially regress into an apparently dormant embryonic form (persumably for hibernative self-healing).

The Gunbuster woke Adam up, yes, but the Katsuragi Expedition still were the ones who stopped the xenoforming. Second Impact isn't changed.

...okay, go on. What happens then?