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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1951: Feb 17th 2018 at 6:28:11 PM

[up] - So, Sports Widow and Married to the Job aren't Hobby / Job-only then? A person can be Married To The Hobby and that would go under Married to the Job and vice versa?

If so, that makes writing the crosswicking sentences a lot easier... Although, that would need Laconic changes...

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1952: Feb 17th 2018 at 6:55:11 PM

If someone is Married To The Hobby, they're more like an Otaku. No, MTTJ is about work, it's about no work-life balance, not something taking up a lot of time. However, Sports Widow seems to be broad enough to also cover those who lose their spouse to work in cases where that person brings their work home and effectively treats it as a hobby, making them present but not interested. That's the distinction I was trying to suggest makes them not Sister Tropes, but in certain cases related. If you can write a connecting sentence that is reasonably succint, it should be included.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1953: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:57:12 PM

So, shelving that for now...

For One-Word Title

Can I add a line that goes: "sometimes, such a short title is picked because it's memorable."?

edited 18th Feb '18 3:57:26 PM by Malady

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#1954: Feb 18th 2018 at 5:25:38 PM

[up] Yes, I'd suggest adding that sentence to the end of the paragraph that begins "When adding examples..."

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#1955: Feb 18th 2018 at 5:29:52 PM

The trope description for False Teeth Tomfoolery is mostly formatted - for some reason - to only have one sentence per line, and seems kind of beige too. Do you think we should touch it up somewhat?

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1956: Feb 18th 2018 at 5:33:13 PM

It's a bit like a list of ways false teeth may be used for tomfoolery. Could definitely be in 3 paragraphs and spiced up.

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#1957: Feb 18th 2018 at 6:22:04 PM

I threw together a quick sandbox page with a different description. Feel free to tweak and improve it, and then move it over when you think it's good enough.

edited 18th Feb '18 6:22:25 PM by TotemicHero

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1958: Feb 18th 2018 at 6:59:20 PM

[up][tup] like the description

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1959: Feb 19th 2018 at 8:20:32 AM

Okay, added that to One-Word Title.

Animal Theme Naming isn't as Characters-only, right? 'Cause that's what the description's implying...

'Cause I made VideoGame.Fairy Bloom Freesia - Animal Theme Naming:

The magical attacks that can be purchased, are named after birds. Quill, Pigeon, Woodpecker, Swallow, Bantam, Shrike, and Peacock.

That still fits, no?


Also, in Homing Projectile subtropes, because Swallow and Peacock both home, but I'm not sure if there's better tropes for it...

Super-Persistent Missile is missiles only, no?

And does Magic Missile Storm have to be homing? The Laconic and name don't indicate it... And nowhere in the description? Except "They may spread out and weave and turn through the air before converging" ... But that makes homing, a possibility, not a requirement?

edited 19th Feb '18 8:24:06 AM by Malady

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1960: Feb 19th 2018 at 4:58:35 PM

Animal Theme Naming is not just for characters, you're correct. Perhaps some tweaks are needed.

Super-Persistent Missile is not only missiles, similar projectiles/munitions/weaponry also count.

Magic Missile Storm is homing-only, and I think that it is an important part of the trope, limiting it in that way.

edited 19th Feb '18 5:06:02 PM by lakingsif

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1961: Feb 20th 2018 at 9:21:49 AM

So, looking at Homing Projectile again, is Roboteching only for scientifically-based weapons that are expected not to Robotech?

A.k.a Missiles and Lasers Only? Magic-not-included?


And is a title disqualified from being a One-Word Title if it has a subtitle? I'd say it's not a disqualifier...

edited 20th Feb '18 9:33:38 AM by Malady

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#1962: Feb 20th 2018 at 11:33:44 AM

For Roboteching, I don’t see why it couldn’t include magic.

I agree with you on subtitles not disqualifying a One-Word Title.

edited 20th Feb '18 11:34:23 AM by lakingsif

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1963: Feb 20th 2018 at 2:13:26 PM

[up][up][up] - So, is Super-Persistent Missile more rigid than the Homing Projectile description's indication of any projectile?

edited 20th Feb '18 2:13:40 PM by Malady

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#1964: Feb 20th 2018 at 3:09:05 PM

[up]Personally, I don't see any dissonance between the descriptions on either page, or their intentions. Well, maybe Super-Persistent Missile could have an expansion.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1965: Feb 20th 2018 at 3:21:00 PM

[up] - So, according to Homing Projectile, Projectile Spell examples would go there... Even though the description implies realistic missiles, with "this heat-seeking or similarly guided missile"?


Change the first paragraph of the description of Compound Title from:

A Compound Title is when the individual titles of parts of a larger work can be strung together to form a title for the whole thing. Note that if the whole thing already has its own title, these may not coincide. The Compound Title may also be used to set off a few related episodes of a series, levels of a game, or similar, in which case it is a special case of Cross-Referenced Titles. Commonly they make up a common English phrase, because these are common titles.

To this?

A Compound Title is when the titles of parts of a larger work can be strung together to form a meaningful phrase. The Compound Title may also be used to set off a few related episodes of a series, levels of a game, or similar. Those titles would also be Cross-Referenced Titles.

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#1966: Feb 20th 2018 at 5:10:40 PM

[up]Well, Projectile Spell examples go on Projectile Spell. By magic, I was working on it meaning similar projectiles that are powered by magic, not like a flick of a wand.

[tup] for the Compound Title write-up.

edited 20th Feb '18 5:11:50 PM by lakingsif

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1967: Feb 20th 2018 at 5:39:12 PM

[up] - I think I screwed up my words... EDIT: No, I didn't get what you meant until now! Sorry!

So, if you have a spell that makes a magic orb that runs in to bash your enemy until they run out of mana, and aren't stopped by any physical obstacle...

What is that?


His Name Really Is "Barkeep" is a subtrope of Everyone Calls Him "Barkeep", right? ... Saw an example that's in both. Was thinking I should remove from latter.

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1968: Feb 20th 2018 at 6:21:02 PM

[up] That example sounds like a magic-powered missile. Just an orb-shaped one.

Yes, you can't really have someone be an example of both HNRIB and ECHB, so removing the latter would probably be best.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1969: Feb 20th 2018 at 7:00:35 PM

[up] - So, any disagreement of changing this:

The munitions equivalent of the Super-Persistent Predator, this heat-seeking or similarly guided missile just will not give up.

To:

The Homing Projectile equivalent of the Super-Persistent Predator, this weapon just will not give up.



Meta Power Up: How about going from this:

A meta powerup doesn't add to the combat ability of a character. It does make improvements go farther. Maybe it doubles the Experience Points that you get. Maybe it increases money gain. Maybe it increases the number of skill or ability points that you get. Maybe it makes short-term powerups last longer, or makes rare powerups drop more often, or lets you steal abilities from defeated foes. Whatever it is, it doesn't power you up, it powers up whatever powers you up.

To:

A meta powerup doesn't add to the combat ability of a character. It does make improvements go farther. Maybe it increases the number of skill or ability points that you get. Maybe it makes short-term powerups last longer. Whatever it is, it doesn't power you up, it powers up whatever powers you up.

Some variants that we have, as its subtropes, are:

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#1970: Feb 20th 2018 at 8:25:18 PM

[up][tup] to both

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#1971: Feb 22nd 2018 at 12:00:18 PM

Isometric Projection is suffering from a mild case of Wikipedia copy-paste-itis. Anyone fancy rewording it so it's not ripping off The Other Wiki?

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1972: Feb 22nd 2018 at 1:00:46 PM

You could take it to the copy paste cleanup thread?

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#1973: Feb 22nd 2018 at 1:19:49 PM

I could, but I thought I would get better feedback here.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1974: Feb 22nd 2018 at 2:03:06 PM

How about cutting out the cruft? Rewrote the first paragraph. Not sure if it should be the only paragraph. The rest are holding historical and technical information...

Isometric projection is a way to show three-dimensional objects in two dimensions, by basically positioning the camera in the air, aimed at the corners of the target, instead of straight on, like Three-Quarters View, or shooting straight down, like Top-Down View.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1975: Feb 24th 2018 at 8:25:51 PM

The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard just had the first sentence of its listed definition of SNK Boss changed by ~The Amazing Blachman from:

To:

A boss who actively breaks the established rules and mechanics of the game just to be more challenging.

...

Since that was unilateral, should we keep it? ... I disagree with that change, because SNK Boss's description starts with:

An SNK Boss is an opponent in a Fighting Game who breaks the rules that enforce Competitive Balance to such an absurd degree that they are considered to be vastly superior to every other character in the game.

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