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Trope Description Improvement Drive:

Oxymoronic Being has a very short description.

I already removed a bunch of "oxymoronic name" misuse from Real Life — I wonder how much other use has resulted from this stub of a description. I doubt it needs a new definition, though.
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
 602 Marq FJA, Sun, 10th Mar '13 1:43:44 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Jerk with a Heart of Gold seems inefficiently long, and it's not quite clear whether "heart of gold" is meant literally — that is, whether it has to be "strong" enough to completely off-set the jerkass part (how do you quantify that?).
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 603 X Fllo, Thu, 14th Mar '13 8:50:30 PM Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
Big Ol' Eyebrows is written as if it's Japanese specific, which it most definitely isn't. At least there are example from all types of media, and its examples are fairly well written, as far as I saw.

But simply giving a character bushy eyebrows isn't really a trope, is it?

I don't think this needs trope description improvement. I think it needs to go to the thread on appearance trope cleanup.

edited 15th Mar '13 5:03:26 AM by Catbert

 605 X Fllo, Fri, 15th Mar '13 9:14:37 AM Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
[up] Ha, that didn't occur to me, but it sounds reasonable.

 606 Ultimatum, Fri, 15th Mar '13 10:00:39 AM from The Amiga forest Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Multi-Directional Barrage was sitting in YKTTW for months waiting for description improvement. If anyone can think of something, it would be appreciated.
 608 Xtifr, Mon, 18th Mar '13 6:02:08 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Call Reception Area suffers badly from Example As Thesis, and is unclear enough that I had to read it several times before I thought I knew what it was driving at. (I'm still not entirely sure I've got it.) I tried my hand at a rewrite but got hopelessly muddled. Help?
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
Yamato Nadeshiko description is looooonnnnng.

Dragon Writer
Okay, I gave Eleventh Hour Superpower its much-needed whack. Description definitely needs more help in the non-videogame department, though — anyone want to chip in?
[up][up]Thing is that it is a rather complex set of cultural ideals, and oversimplifying it would just increase misuse.

 612 Septimus Heap, Tue, 19th Mar '13 4:40:04 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Yeah, Yamato Nadhesiko or whatever it's pronounced like has the essay because it's impossible to keep misuse away without.

 613 Marq FJA, Tue, 19th Mar '13 7:06:18 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Think anything in Yamato Nadeshiko could be put in Analysis?
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 614 Septimus Heap, Tue, 19th Mar '13 7:09:46 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Don't think so. See my previous post.

 615 X Fllo, Tue, 19th Mar '13 7:47:44 AM Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
Elegant Classical Musician should be slightly re-written. Nothing drastic. First, the description implies the trope is heavily sexualized but sometimes it's played more subtly, as simply being attracted to beautiful musicians who play classical music. Also it implies that it's a female specific trope with a few rare male examples, but the example section proves that male and female examples are rather balanced. See also the discussion page.

If you agree it's needed, I might be willing to write something up in the sandbox for you to check.

edited 19th Mar '13 12:18:41 PM by XFllo

 616 Marq FJA, Tue, 19th Mar '13 8:32:54 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
[up] Seems like a reasonable proposal IMO.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 617 Ultimatum, Wed, 20th Mar '13 8:17:15 AM from The Amiga forest Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Has returned.
Sequelitis is rather long, and so is Doing Itforthe Art

edited 20th Mar '13 8:49:48 AM by Ultimatum

 618 nemui10pm, Wed, 20th Mar '13 10:34:41 PM from outer space
While we're on the topic of long descriptions, most of Fanfic needs to be moved to Analysis/. 20+ paragraphs of description is too much, even for a broad page like this.

Edit: found another one: War Is Hell.

edited 21st Mar '13 1:10:08 AM by nemui10pm

 619 Septimus Heap, Thu, 21st Mar '13 4:42:42 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
The entire opinion-like stuff in Fan Fic can be moved to Analysis/. Note, it's not all in the same paragraph.

In War Is Hell, all with and after the 7th paragraph can be moved to Analysis/

 620 Xtifr, Thu, 21st Mar '13 4:04:47 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Tap on the Head has a really long description, quite a bit of which seems like it might be more appropriate to analysis. Also, the Multiple Media section consists entirely of a non-example which is probably more appropriate part of the description and/or analysis.

I'd take a whack at it, but I'm currently right in the middle of three other things, and if my task stack nests any deeper, it'll be in danger of overflowing.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
The Scrappy is a bit of a mess in its description.

Seeking for Light
I was about to mention that here. I'm going to work on a sandbox rewrite.

Seeking for Light
Okay, proposed re-write is at Sandbox.The Scrappy. I mostly shifted the really long list of character types to analysis, and did a bit of rearranging. It's still kinda long, but I'm not sure that anything else can really go without losing fullness.

I'd like to hear opinions on the re-write before I act on it.

[up]It's much better. Really the reason why the trope description was so long was because someone decided to list examples of character types that run the risk of becoming Scrappies.

 625 Septimus Heap, Sun, 24th Mar '13 2:42:18 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
I did some editing. The last paragraph can probably go - the YMMV banner does the same thing better.

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