Trope Description Improvement Drive:

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Yes, I understand that just fine, but anyone who is casually browsing will look at and skip to the next page. With Elemental Powers I have done that several times. Plus, a Super Trope should list its subtropes, not explain them.
Don't make me destroy you. @ Castle Series
552 MarqFJA3rd Feb 2013 03:08:48 PM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
The longwided explanation seems to be a holdover from a past era where supertropes were expected to explain their subtropes clearly, though probably not to the extent taken by whoever wrote Elemental Powers' description. Plus, besides the main four elements, only a handful of the other elements had a designated subtrope of their own; most of them are quite new, compared to the main four.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Earth, Wind, Fire, and water I assume.
Don't make me destroy you. @ Castle Series
Definitely not a weirdo
Sauna of Death is kind of a mess. If someone wants to work on it, then great. If not, then I can get to it when I'm more awake and coherent.
In uffish thought
The Fair Folk has a very long description that pulls in more historical context and examples above the example line than any other page I've seen. Whilst that's contributed to the 2,266 inbounds, I think some should be moved to Analysis/. A sandbox of the old and new pages is here, and will be swapped in at some point if no feedback is given.

edited 14th Feb '13 2:08:21 AM by Telcontar

556 SeptimusHeap14th Feb 2013 10:37:23 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Go ahead.
557 Xtifr18th Feb 2013 03:25:02 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Failed Dramatic Exit (just launched, but seems like a good trope otherwise) relies entirely on Example As Thesis.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
Personally, I think it works in this case. The example isn't that long, and the second paragraph provides a pretty clear description of the defining features of the trope.
Battle in the Rain: Starts off good, and all of a sudden I get a paragraph on the effect of rain on Real Life military battles. Who cares?

Permission to cut that whole Real Life section of the description? It isn't even descent Analysis material because it is entirely unrelated to the fictional use trope, which appears to be using the weather to set the mood for a battle.
560 SeptimusHeap19th Feb 2013 12:53:03 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Ax it.
Involuntary Dance has very little description besides sorting examples into four types, which is discouraged anyway.
562 Ghilz19th Feb 2013 05:44:43 PM from The Moon. Or Canada. , Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight It Out!
Floating Head Syndrome kinda suffers from a serious case of "This trope is bad and people who use it are evil" (What happened to Tropes Are Not Bad?)

Seriously, with gems like "Generally felt to be a lazy approach (...)" (Okay, by who?)

edited 19th Feb '13 5:45:02 PM by Ghilz

563 Xtifr19th Feb 2013 06:03:46 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
[up]Agreed. If it's a derogatory term (as the first sentence claims), then it should probably be an example-free fanspeak page. If it is actually (as I suspect), simply a term for a certain style of cover art, then the description should be neutral.

I've never heard the term outside of this wiki, and frankly have no problem with the style in general, so I'd support a neutral rewrite.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
564 nrjxll19th Feb 2013 06:22:06 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
[up]If it is a derogatory term, I think it would make more sense to rename it than to turn it into a fanspeak page, because this is a real cover style.
Dragon Writer
@561: Lists of types are not a problem in and of themselves, it's the numbered arrangement (and the in-page examples are sorted by media, not type). I'll swap it out for a generic unordered list.

edited 19th Feb '13 7:33:15 PM by Stratadrake

Shameless Self-Promoter: It's better if I simply delete the current description. (In TRS for another issue)

edited 19th Feb '13 8:47:18 PM by spacemarine50

567 SeptimusHeap19th Feb 2013 11:16:07 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
We do not "delete" descriptions.

Re Floating Head Syndrome: Just ax the complainy bits.
^^ The description describes nothing relevant about the trope. Still, need a complete restart. Maybe worth a YKTTW.
Please don't bring things up here when they are in TRS already.
Sharknado Warning
Re Floating Head Syndrome: Just ax the complainy bits.

That'd be the entire description.
571 lu12720th Feb 2013 06:20:07 AM from 七夜 , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Well, the results from googling Floating Head Syndrome in regards to movie posters reveal that it is not regarded as a good technique. Almost all of them are complaining.
小さく揺れた向日葵
572 SeptimusHeap20th Feb 2013 07:02:43 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
It's not all of the description. I'll fix it as soon as I get home.
573 Voyd21121st Feb 2013 12:14:35 PM from Somewhere in the Midwest
Let's rumba!
I think I brought this up before, but no one did anything with it.

I wrote the description for Animalistic Abomination, but I feel like it's somewhat lacking, especially compared to the two other Abomination tropes.

Unfortunately, I don't see any way I can improve on it. What about you guys?
So can you tell me what exactly does freedom mean, if I'm not free to be as twisted as I wanna be?
574 nrjxll21st Feb 2013 07:04:33 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
I suspect this may be a TRS issue, but the description of Villainy Discretion Shot appears to be at odds with the quote, examples, and itself.
575 Noaqiyeum21st Feb 2013 10:03:07 PM from a thought-experiment gone horribly wrong , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
[up][up] Humanoid Abomination is in TRS right now having its description fixed. Eldritch Abomination's description needs a drastic paring-down, and that's the least of its problems.

...in other words, Animalistic Abomination is less problematic than either, so it is better by default.

(NB: There's actually a fourth Abomination trope.)

edited 21st Feb '13 10:04:29 PM by Noaqiyeum


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