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MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#1: Sep 18th 2011 at 8:48:47 PM

(Spun off from the Krugman thread but still related in a way)

There's a saying I've learned "Business communication to achieve business results" and it speaks volumes about the importance of clearly and effectively conveying whatever message you want to say to achieve a desired result.

Take the issue of global warming. You as a scientist have evidence that supports your cause*

and you need to convey it to folks to convince them a certain course of action concluded in your models is needed. Your target audience is going to be everyday folks, business owners and executives and politicians, hardly an academic crowd so speaking in academia is going to be offputting and achieve a negative result for what you want. But speak in a simple yet clear and effective tone such as "If we do this, we'll stop the oceans from rising" you are far more likely to achieve the business result you are looking for.

The scope of effective communication runs the full scale and cares not what the truth or the idea is. Poorly communicated truth will fail to effectively communicated lies. Conversely, an intelligent idea that cannot be explained to a non-academic will fail against a moronic idea that everyone can understand owing to being communicated effectively.

Thus we have the rationale in order to achieve results. If you want to convince others especially those who can support your endeavor you must communicate on their level and in their language.

"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#2: Sep 18th 2011 at 8:51:35 PM

Yes. It's important. Most academics fail at this. The world would be a better place if they didn't. Ah well, I guess...

Maybe "Effective Speaking 101" should be a required college course for everyone and if you don't get at least a B you retake it? evil grin

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#3: Sep 18th 2011 at 9:01:34 PM

A speech course is required where I live once you get to college. How effective it is is up for debate. I... did not find it that helpful.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#4: Sep 18th 2011 at 9:18:08 PM

Some people are good at speaking and can even make a shitty as all hell speech decent. Some cannot.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#5: Sep 19th 2011 at 1:51:37 PM

Speech is required at my college. Not a very instructive course though.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#6: Sep 19th 2011 at 2:33:18 PM

It's inporant too not how too spaek proper like.

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Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
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#7: Sep 19th 2011 at 2:35:48 PM

Or maybe they'll hir e a good communicator to give statements.

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pvtnum11 OMG NO NOSECONES from Kerbin low orbit Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#8: Sep 19th 2011 at 4:16:37 PM

Let's eat Grandpa!

Let's eat, Grandpa!

Commas - saving lives since... whenever they were invented.

(edit: commans... i am derp)

edited 21st Sep '11 4:27:15 PM by pvtnum11

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Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
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#9: Sep 19th 2011 at 4:19:00 PM

I didn't know commans saved lives... I thought commas would, though.

Question: Would the implications of certain words have an impact? Such as "Entitlement" or "Saving" versus "Privatizing"

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MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#10: Sep 19th 2011 at 4:25:48 PM

^ Word choice plays heavily into the message you send and its effectiveness.

"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#11: Sep 19th 2011 at 4:30:58 PM

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Yes. This is why you hear terms like "Job Creator" instead of "insanely rich", or "Pro-choice" instead of "supports abortion rights"

They sound far more crowd pleasing.

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#12: Sep 19th 2011 at 4:49:24 PM

^lets not go there.

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joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#13: Sep 19th 2011 at 4:51:13 PM

Communication it helps people from being sent to jail or jumping itno a river filled with bull sharks.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#14: Sep 19th 2011 at 5:54:27 PM

Clearly Texas needs more effective public speaking classes. Or more effective teachers. Or we need more than just one measly semester of it in order to get the credit/actually learn the lessons presented to us.

But yeah, communication has to be one of the hardest things to both learn and teach. Especially since there's apparently far more fear of public speaking than of death.

LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#15: Sep 19th 2011 at 6:30:43 PM

People should learn how to read statistics properly. Otherwise you get newspaper articles that say things like "X chemical/activity/food quadruples your risk of getting Y cancer!", without adding "But the original risk was only like 0.00000000001%, so it's still not that much."

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#16: Sep 19th 2011 at 6:34:46 PM

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Yep. some people are so terrified of it that they manage to get through half a minute of a 5 minute speech before running out of stuff to say.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#17: Sep 19th 2011 at 11:00:44 PM

I'd say poor teachers make it worse (fuck you for not believing people can prefer being alone). Bad standards make it worst.

Loni, you'll get that regardless of whether or not people know statistics, because reporters want to mislead people into reading the drivel they wrote.

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LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#18: Sep 19th 2011 at 11:18:03 PM

That doesn't mean we have to make things easy for them.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#19: Sep 19th 2011 at 11:19:20 PM

I've never had a speech teacher who said anything along those lines. O-o Being alone never even came up in mine; just the basics of making a persuasive speech and trying to make it through without getting stuck. Did you just get smacked in the face with weird teachers or something?

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#20: Sep 19th 2011 at 11:48:40 PM

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Deboss just has a tendency to view even slight inconveniences to his interests as horrible affronts to him, in my experience with his posts.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#21: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:34:42 AM

No, I literally had a speech teacher explicitly tell me that any one who says they prefer being on their own is lying.

It's more that I view Fan Dumbing to be an affront to basic decency and something we should do our absolute best to eradicate from human activity.

edited 20th Sep '11 1:40:01 AM by Deboss

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Jauce Since: Oct, 2010
#22: Sep 20th 2011 at 4:07:19 AM

Public Speaking is very easy. Just imagine your audience naked.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#23: Sep 20th 2011 at 4:49:57 AM

I find it's better to just flip my emotions off. That does tend to hinder my ability to inspire, but I never plan to go into politics anyway.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#24: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:53:53 PM

Why is the whole "imagine your audience naked" such popular advice? It makes absolutely no sense, and I would rather not do that. Does it actually help a significant number of people speak in front of a crowd more effectively?

YoungMachete from Dallas Since: May, 2011
#25: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:04:23 PM

[up] Yeah, that never worked for me. I just looked at peoples foreheads instead of their eyes when I was a nervous speaker. To them, it still looks like you're looking them in their eyes. Worked quite well.

"Delenda est." "Furthermore, Carthage must be destroyed." -Common Roman saying at the end of speeches.

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