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occono from Ireland. Since: Apr, 2009
#1: Sep 18th 2011 at 5:49:29 PM

It could help towards a cure for AIDS.

The game is already For Science!, but still.

edited 18th Sep '11 5:50:45 PM by occono

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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#2: Sep 18th 2011 at 6:10:57 PM

That's...pretty awesome. I mean if there's any group out there who will inevitably perform something ridiculous within a given framework, it'd be bored college gamers.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#3: Sep 18th 2011 at 6:12:29 PM

Awesome.

And this is why the internet is ridiculously powerful.

edited 18th Sep '11 6:12:56 PM by Midgetsnowman

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#4: Sep 18th 2011 at 6:17:36 PM

Sweet.

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#5: Sep 18th 2011 at 6:22:37 PM

This is really cool, but I still wouldn't trust the general gaming public to do real science.

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#6: Sep 18th 2011 at 6:33:57 PM

Huh. I'd heard of Foldit and thought it might be useful, but this greatly exceeded my expectations

djmaca Secret Character from Philippines Since: Apr, 2010
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#7: Sep 18th 2011 at 6:57:22 PM

[up][up]Well this really isn't for the general public. Only people who find Science somewhat fun will be interested.

edited 18th Sep '11 6:57:32 PM by djmaca

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Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#8: Sep 18th 2011 at 7:01:31 PM

There's nothing more to say besides this being awesome.

And just proving Video Games are even better to have in this society than people think. Plus, you know, helping to save lives! grin

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#9: Sep 18th 2011 at 7:04:07 PM

Gamers could cure cancer if there was an achievement involved.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#10: Sep 18th 2011 at 7:06:21 PM

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seriously. offer a folding program on Xbox live and Ps N that gives new weapon unlocks for Modern Warfare. BAM. millions of gamers working on it.

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#11: Sep 18th 2011 at 7:06:28 PM

^^ Think big. We need inventing Faster-Than-Light Travel to be an X Box achievement.

edited 18th Sep '11 7:06:40 PM by MajorTom

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#12: Sep 18th 2011 at 9:08:33 PM

Imagine the posibilites, THE POSIBILITES!! AHHAHAHAAHAHA!!!

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#13: Sep 18th 2011 at 10:13:01 PM

Dude, that is freakin' awesome. Should show this to my mom, a fellow gamer.

And to my Aunt, who thinks gaming is completely unproductive.

And I agree on the earlier statement about gamers willing to do anything if it involves achievements. We could cure cancer, bring back the dead, unravel the final mysteries of evolution, stop global warming...

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#14: Sep 18th 2011 at 10:16:21 PM

[up]In terms of gaming being unproductive, all this does is reinforce the idea that we have millions of people wasting their brain power on games. Rather than implying "we could cure AIDS!", it implies that "we're not going to cure AIDS because we're calculating optimal dps in World Of Warcraft instead". At least before it could have been assumed that we're useless either way.

edited 18th Sep '11 10:16:41 PM by Clarste

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#15: Sep 18th 2011 at 10:43:51 PM

So... because they figured out one small thing in the path towards curing AIDS that had stumped scientists, suddenly gamers are able to to do pretty much anything?

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#16: Sep 18th 2011 at 10:44:59 PM

Well, you see, what this really means is that we have learned to properly tap an infinite resource; the lust for points inherent in gamers.

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#17: Sep 18th 2011 at 10:48:52 PM

So... because they figured out one small thing in the path towards curing AIDS that had stumped scientists, suddenly gamers are able to to do pretty much anything?
I don't think that people are serious here.

At least, I hope they aren't.

People aren't as awful as the internet makes them out to be.
CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#18: Sep 18th 2011 at 10:50:24 PM

I very much hope they aren't.

I can never tell on this site though.

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Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#19: Sep 18th 2011 at 10:50:36 PM

I'm not. I just find it freakin' awesome that they managed to do this, that's all.

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#20: Sep 18th 2011 at 11:06:30 PM

Yeah, I know it's a small step, and really more of a victory for crowdsourcing in general than for gaming, but it's still pretty cool.

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#21: Sep 19th 2011 at 3:50:19 PM

Well, Foldit is something that can be easily installed (I think), so you're essentially able to recruit anyone who uses a computer.

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YoungMachete from Dallas Since: May, 2011
#22: Sep 19th 2011 at 4:10:11 PM

[up] But how many people who can install it will? And how many of those people that do install it actually would use it to work on things like this?

It's a great step forward for opensource projects, but I believe it's highly doubtful that this is a big step forward for gamers.

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Ratix from Someplace, Maryland Since: Sep, 2010
#23: Sep 20th 2011 at 11:53:38 AM

[up] I'd never heard of it until now, but it apparently has over 200,000 players since 2008. That's pretty good right there.

I think it's an excellent experiment in using non-conventional resources to solve a problem (in this case, a protein shape that's difficult for computers to map), and having a large pool of people who don't mind getting bad results (they still gain enjoyment from playing) improves the chance of payoff. Plus, the cost of setting this up was probably much lower than bringing a few hundred people in for lab experiments.

No one is suggesting you can seriously replace hard science (for instance, what to do with the resultant protein shape) with video games. This was simply one way of getting around a stumbling block, and it worked.

SoCalToa King of Pants from The Town With No Name Since: Aug, 2011
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#24: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:23:26 PM

And I agree on the earlier statement about gamers willing to do anything if it involves achievements. We could cure cancer, bring back the dead, unravel the final mysteries of evolution, stop global warming...

bring back the dead

Left 4 Dead already has us prepared for the eradication of zombies, so why not go full circle?

edited 20th Sep '11 12:23:38 PM by SoCalToa

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TARDISES pirate girl Since: May, 2011
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#25: Sep 20th 2011 at 2:31:54 PM

Yeha, there's a whole lot of untapped brianpower among us - We just need somethign to draw it out. I generally don't play for score though (W Hich is why EoSD is so hard for me.)

edited 20th Sep '11 2:32:32 PM by TARDISES


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