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Deadlock Clock: Sep 17th 2011 at 11:59:00 PM
Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1: Sep 10th 2011 at 1:34:13 PM

The Linus. I get it since I'm fully familiar with Peanuts, but someone else might not. And aren't we moving away from character named tropes anyway?

The Linus found in: 81 articles, excluding discussions.

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edited 10th Sep '11 1:34:48 PM by Twentington

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#2: Sep 10th 2011 at 2:14:29 PM

I guessed that this was indeed named after the character from Peanuts... but that tells me absolutely nothing about what the trope is, as there are a number of possible character traits associated with him. Just one more example of why character-named tropes are bad. Rename.

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#3: Sep 10th 2011 at 2:20:36 PM

Rename. It's character-named trope for a character without a major defining characteristic, not to mention it has enough wicks to rename before it spreads.

DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
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#4: Sep 10th 2011 at 2:54:46 PM

Rename.

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Discovery from A Galaxy Far Far Away Since: Jun, 2011
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Sep 10th 2011 at 5:12:12 PM

Character-named tropes being liked or not, this one fails one of the main "tollerable" criteria for Character Named Tropes: It fails the One Mario Limit, if the description has to disclaim other Linus character from being relevant.

20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#8: Sep 10th 2011 at 6:59:20 PM

How about Naive Prodigy? Without the diaeresis.

As for Guess That Trope, the first Linus I though of was Mr. Torvalds. No, I have no idea why I'd think a trope would be named after him either.

Yeah, unwritten rule number one: follow all the unwritten procedures. - Camacan
Embryon from Toronto Since: Mar, 2010
#9: Sep 10th 2011 at 8:00:23 PM

[up] "Without the diaeresis"? Why?

And yeah, rename. Big time.

edited 10th Sep '11 8:00:54 PM by Embryon

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20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#10: Sep 10th 2011 at 8:20:39 PM

The plain version is the main entry for Merriam-Webster, Dictionary.com and Wiktionary; it's also used far more often than the one with the diacritics. There's really no reason to use them.

Yeah, unwritten rule number one: follow all the unwritten procedures. - Camacan
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#11: Sep 10th 2011 at 11:46:13 PM

Performance is not terrible, but underwhelming, so I am comfortable renaming, although it would still be good to see a Wick Check.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#12: Sep 13th 2011 at 8:18:16 PM

Accidental Aesop, Ban on Politics, Matchmaker Crush used it as potholes to the character, but all the other wicks checked out. That's pretty minimal misuse, so I guess tropers are smart enough to figure this one out.

I do have two questions though:

1. Why do some people pothole the same word six times in the same paragraph?

2. How much longer will it take before we've gotten all the YMMV stuff off the main page? I'm still finding pages LOADED with YMMV tropes (Characters.Ka Blam had about 20).

edited 13th Sep '11 8:20:51 PM by Twentington

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#13: Oct 7th 2011 at 3:55:48 AM

I agree that the most famous "Linus" these days is Linus Torvalds, not the character this trope is named after.

So yes, time for a rename. Character-named tropes are a poor and discontinued practice.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#14: Oct 7th 2011 at 4:01:12 AM

[up] YMMV on this being the "most famous" Linus (I think of Oceans Eleven Linus and Peanut's Linus first), but yeah, this fails the One Mario Limit.

edited 7th Oct '11 4:01:44 AM by Ghilz

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#15: Oct 7th 2011 at 5:53:58 AM

+1 to rename per previously stated reasons.

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#16: Oct 10th 2011 at 3:59:55 PM

Bump. Are we gonna rename or what?

Grakor456 Since: Feb, 2010
Antheia from Uppsala, Sweden Since: Jan, 2001
BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rabid Fujoshi
#20: Oct 20th 2011 at 9:54:48 PM

So this trope seems like Wise Beyond Their Years Child Prodigy who often reminds the audience he's a kid by being innocent, naive or generally child-like and age appropriate. Hmm, I feel like Innocent Prodigy doesn't communicate the 'child' part.

edited 20th Oct '11 9:55:16 PM by NoirGrimoir

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#21: Oct 20th 2011 at 10:03:19 PM

Really? I mean, prodigy almost always refers to children in common speech.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#22: Oct 20th 2011 at 10:06:36 PM

I think she means that it doesn't get the childish part across.

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#23: Oct 21st 2011 at 8:13:50 PM

Both really. I mean it's better than just The Linus, but still kind of wish it was more...descriptive? I dunno.

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#24: Nov 8th 2011 at 4:30:34 PM

Calling it on Innocent Prodigy.

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#25: Nov 10th 2011 at 1:03:02 PM

The Linus is now a redirect for Innocent Prodigy, the wicks are fixed (save for a few artifact ones), and the old quotes page has been sent to the cutlist as there is a new one in its place. There are also notes about the change on the Renamed Tropes page and in the renamed tropes thread. I did not see any discussion to move.

Feel free to check my work here though. I may have made a mistake during the rename process.

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AlternativeTitles: TheLinus
19th Oct '11 10:12:03 AM

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