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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#26: Oct 14th 2011 at 10:21:50 AM

Did the rename and fixed the indexes, now we just have to go through 690 wicks.

We should probably leave this thread open until that happens (and move the tag to Women Are Wiser).

MegaJ MLM of color Since: Oct, 2009
MLM of color
#27: Oct 14th 2011 at 10:46:35 AM

Here's my shot at writing a Closer to Earth descrip:

Minority representation in media is a tricky thing. Usually, with most media the majority is represented pretty well with minorities fighting for airtime. And with historically-oppressed minorities, you want to have the portrayal be as positive as possible. So what is a writer to do?

Just simply make them more rational!

Closer to Earth is a specific form of Positive Discrimination in which the minority character is portrayed as more sensible and down to earth than The Hero, usually played by a member in the majority. This trope is more prevalent in Western media, particularly with works wit the White Male Lead. The minority will usually be the moral center of the work and dish out plenty of reasonable advice. They're level-headed and rational and will give the main lead a good talking to when they act out of line. They're always there with a shoulder to cry on. Flaws? They don't usually have any. They're only usually there just to help the main character.

The idea is noble, but in practice it can be annoying. Despite the good intentions, it can come with Unfortunate Implications. There's the implication that the White Male Lead can do anything right without the guidance of the humble minority there to help them. Also, the minority himself/herself is usually a Flat Character with no sort of drive or purpose in the story besides helping this clueless lead. So in an effort to not offend anyone, this trope can indeed harbor it's own offensiveness.

Closer to Earth is the Super-Trope of the following:

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#28: Oct 20th 2011 at 3:14:51 PM

Nevermind.

edited 20th Oct '11 3:15:12 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#29: Oct 31st 2011 at 8:01:03 PM

Crowner called earlier. Now we need to create the supertrope.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
MegaJ MLM of color Since: Oct, 2009
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#30: Nov 26th 2011 at 5:44:48 PM

Bump. Should I get this started or does anyone have any input?

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#31: Nov 26th 2011 at 5:48:05 PM

On the supertrope? Yes, if you could do that, please.

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MegaJ MLM of color Since: Oct, 2009
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#32: Nov 26th 2011 at 11:58:01 PM

Dumb question: I'm trying to access the page but since it's not a redirect, I can't edit Closer To Earth. Halp.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#33: Nov 27th 2011 at 12:00:53 AM

To edit a page that is currently redirecting to something else, go into the editor for any page, then go into your browser's address bar. replace the trope/work/whatever name there with the one you're trying to edit, without removing any other part. Load that address. It should put you in the right place.

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MegaJ MLM of color Since: Oct, 2009
MLM of color
#34: Nov 27th 2011 at 8:58:31 PM

Okay, that was done. Closer to Earth is there now. If you wanna fix the description a bit, that's okay. But otherwise call this thread....closed.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#35: Nov 27th 2011 at 9:09:56 PM

What do you guys think about The Native Rival being related? Also, Closer to Earth may work as an index.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#36: Nov 27th 2011 at 9:14:51 PM

I don't see the relation at all. If anything, it's a "contrast" situation: The Native Rival tends to come off pretty badly in comparison to his non-minority nemesis.

captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#37: Nov 28th 2011 at 5:28:53 AM

Sidenote: this trope description needs a trim.

Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#38: Dec 15th 2011 at 10:48:23 PM

Discar's saying the rename is done in post 26. Better to say the page was moved.

Now we've got a holler from captainpat saying it's done.

Closer to Earth found in: 710 articles. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/CloserToEarth (Plus some misused alt-names: alt-names are primarily for searching.)

I'm presuming that most of these will become Women Are Wiser, right? Rename will be done when those are sorted, and we get a note in Renamed Tropes and the thread.

Myra Since: Oct, 2011
#39: Jan 12th 2012 at 11:53:44 AM

Since Closer to Earth still exists as a supertrope, do the wicks still need changing?

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Myra Since: Oct, 2011
#41: Jan 15th 2012 at 1:01:53 PM

Working on it, but this is going to be a Sisyphosjob: a lot of wicks are from pages using Closer To Earth or Voice Of Reason simply as phrases, and writing them as wikiwords: "The team decides to storm Emperor Evulz's castle and Bob, who is Closer to Earth than the rest of them, has to act as the Voice of Reason." And apparently, there's a movie called "Down to Earth" as well.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#42: Jan 15th 2012 at 1:47:30 PM

I'll try to help, but for soe of those, you could just break the wicks that don't fit.

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#44: Apr 14th 2012 at 3:43:46 AM

Bump. Considering that the wick count has dropped from 710 to 406, am I correct to assume that the rename is almost done and only needs updating of Renamed Tropes and the FAQ thread followed by lockination?

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#45: Apr 14th 2012 at 7:07:50 AM

CORRRRRRRECTAMUNDO! Though there's probably still some instances that need a rename.

Sorry I haven't actually helped that rename yet.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower Since: Oct, 2009
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#47: May 2nd 2012 at 9:12:33 AM

Here.

Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#48: May 17th 2012 at 1:41:57 PM

Put into that faq.

Still needs a sweep of related threads, which I don't personally intend to do soon, if someone else could.

edited 17th May '12 1:42:10 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#49: Jul 6th 2012 at 8:11:32 AM

438 wicks left.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#50: Aug 17th 2012 at 9:00:45 AM

335 wicks left.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.

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