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Deadlock Clock: Oct 26th 2011 at 11:59:00 PM
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#1: Sep 1st 2011 at 6:40:43 PM

I was reminded that I meant to take this to Trope Repair Shop by a post in Lost And Found the other day. The things wrong with this trope include:

  • It's totally non-indicative.
  • It's a dialogue-named title.
  • It has extremely poor usage.
  • It's insufficiently distinguished from Dwindling Party - it appears to be a subtrope, but Dwindling Party isn't mentioned anywhere in the description.

A rename is obviously needed, but this seems to be in need of other repairing as well.

Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Sep 1st 2011 at 6:47:32 PM

This definitely isn't a subtrope of Dwindling Party, but I agree on all other counts.

Worldmaker Title? What Title? Since: Jun, 2010
Title? What Title?
#3: Sep 1st 2011 at 7:06:23 PM

Its not a subtrope of Dwindling Party at all.

And I can't see any misuse at all, indicative name or otherwise.

edited 1st Sep '11 7:07:47 PM by Worldmaker

Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
Shale Mighty pirate! from Int'l House of Mojo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Mighty pirate!
#4: Sep 1st 2011 at 7:10:56 PM

Since Dwindling Party is written to be death-specific, this is more of a sister trope. You get the same effect on the climactic scene, with just the main character and maybe a scant few allies left to face whatever's waiting at the end of the sequence, but the party members who are gone aren't dead (or even pretending to be dead), they're just sidelined for a while.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#5: Sep 1st 2011 at 7:30:55 PM

You're all right - I hadn't noticed that Dwindling Party is death-specific.

And as for problems this is having besides a terrible name - it's not so much misuse that's the issue as it is use, period:

I Got This found in: 25 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 40 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

Those are pretty bad numbers for all but the most uncommon trope. This isn't everywhere, but it's hardly uncommon.

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#6: Sep 2nd 2011 at 4:54:16 AM

I got a bit of a broader impression from the title than the actual trope, but I don't think I was far off.

That said, this should probably be renamed, as it's a Stock Phrase with an insufficiently well-defined meaning, which is now frowned on, by edict of the Great and Rapid Edward.

edited 2nd Sep '11 4:54:41 AM by MorganWick

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#7: Sep 2nd 2011 at 6:03:21 AM

Or maybe it's just not that common. Maybe people prefer Leave Him to Me!? Or to put it another way, people are using Leave Him to Me! when they should be using I got this.

The point is the name is correct, it isn't misleading and isn't being misused. If you know more cases where it should be you're free to edit the wiki and put links and potholes all around.

Lets just combine it with "Leave Him To Me" one page for one action. The end.

edited 2nd Sep '11 6:04:46 AM by Cider

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#8: Sep 2nd 2011 at 8:06:27 AM

Every time I see this trope I think of situations like this, which is completely not what its supposed to be.

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#9: Sep 2nd 2011 at 8:22:51 AM

The point is the name is correct, it isn't misleading

Au contraire. I can think of MANY situations where the phrase would be used that have nothing to do with the trope. For example, picking up a tab for a date or at a bar. That's why we're moving away from Stock Phrases.

edited 2nd Sep '11 8:23:59 AM by MorganWick

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
Dragon Writer
#10: Sep 2nd 2011 at 8:46:33 AM

From the current description I can see how it ties in to the Dwindling Party:

  • I Got This: Character volunteers to fight an opponent blocking the party's way, while the other party members continue onward.
  • Dwindling Party: Something (I Got This or whatever) happens repeatedly as the journey progresses, whittling away the party until there's only the chief protagonist(s) left to face the Big Bad.

Notably, if it only occurs once then it's not a Dwindling Party.

edited 2nd Sep '11 8:46:54 AM by Stratadrake

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
Antheia from Uppsala, Sweden Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Sep 2nd 2011 at 9:18:11 AM

The name doesn't tell you anything about the trope, unless you already know what it's about. Support a rename.

Worldmaker Title? What Title? Since: Jun, 2010
Title? What Title?
#12: Sep 2nd 2011 at 1:00:58 PM

If I remember correctly from the YKTTW that started this trope, there wasn't a lot of good ideas for a title, and the one it ended up with was the best of a bad lot.

Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
Worldmaker Title? What Title? Since: Jun, 2010
Title? What Title?
#14: Sep 3rd 2011 at 5:17:31 AM

In the usual place on the wiki, naturally.

Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
Dragon Writer
#15: Sep 3rd 2011 at 8:20:59 AM

No, I meant there is no YKTTW attached to this article in the first place.

edited 3rd Sep '11 8:33:22 AM by Stratadrake

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
Worldmaker Title? What Title? Since: Jun, 2010
Title? What Title?
#16: Sep 3rd 2011 at 9:56:20 AM

I can't speak for that, but I can assure you there was a YKTTW.

Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
TripleElation Diagonalizing The Matrix from Haifa, Isarel Since: Jan, 2001
Diagonalizing The Matrix
#17: Sep 3rd 2011 at 4:33:16 PM

I can think of MANY situations where the phrase would be used that have nothing to do with the trope.

7:45, we’re drivin’ on the highway
Cruisin’ so fast, I want time to fly
Fun, fun, think about fun
You know what it is
I got this, you got this
My friend is by my right
I got this, you got this
Now you know it

edited 3rd Sep '11 4:34:12 PM by TripleElation

Pretentious quote || In-joke from fandom you've never heard of || Shameless self-promotion || Something weird you'll habituate to
BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
Dragon Writer
#19: Oct 23rd 2011 at 9:43:43 AM

If I'm reading it right, the definition seems to specifically be about one character volunteering to stay behind to deal with an opponent so the others can proceed to the next destination without them. It's not just "party gets split up".

Let's do a check on the usage:

Sounds like wrong context

  • Fanfic.Worse Than Death Series: "The Hellsing-Iscariot crew is constantly being split up during gigantic fight scenes to fight their respective rivals...."
  • Redneck Rampage: "Oddly enough, even though Leonard and Bubba are together, Bubba is someplace safe (most of the time) to leave Leonard all the dirty work."
  • Action/Adventure Tropes: "When the heroic team is split up by the sudden arrival of a series of villains"

Sounds like a Stock Phrase

Can't figure it out

  • Sexophone: Disney's Hercules example
  • Getbackers: "It seems to be required to pair off the heroes and villains..."

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#20: Oct 23rd 2011 at 11:05:01 AM

I think this needs a rename-or-not crowner. I've seen several arguments for either side, now we need to figure out which side has consensus.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#21: Oct 23rd 2011 at 11:13:58 AM

I don't think anyone's suggested the current name is acceptable.

Worldmaker Title? What Title? Since: Jun, 2010
Title? What Title?
#22: Oct 23rd 2011 at 12:17:57 PM

[up]Yes, actually, a couple of people have suggested precisely that.

edited 23rd Oct '11 12:18:08 PM by Worldmaker

Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#23: Oct 23rd 2011 at 1:01:47 PM

Well, let's make a crowner and see how it goes.

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Insignificant Since: Dec, 1969
#25: Nov 6th 2011 at 6:20:00 PM

15 for, 1 against. The consensus is quite clear.

AlternativeTitles: IGotThis
6th Nov '11 6:21:50 PM

Crown Description:

The definition is: The good guys are on their way to kill the Big Bad or rescue the Distressed Damsel, but they only make it so far before a bad guy pops up and gives them the old You Shall Not Pass. Inevitably, one of the team will step up and say, "You guys go on ahead. I'll take care of this guy." He then stays behind to fight the villain while the rest of the group moves on.

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