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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#26: Aug 31st 2011 at 2:12:04 AM

@ USAF. How is that biased?

@ Erock. Assuming a decent-sized city, a public transit network (be it buses or a metro) would enable commuters to get from one end of the city to the other. It's logical.

Wait, Los Angeles? Doesn't that have a Metro?

ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#27: Aug 31st 2011 at 4:43:57 AM

@Inhopeless: If you need stuff like metros, then Malaysia has no cities outside of the Klang Valley area. Even Johor Bahru, with a population of like, 2 million in the metropolitan area, and 900k people in the city itself.

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#28: Aug 31st 2011 at 4:46:01 AM

Oh right. I'm using Metro as the term for Subway. Not the term for urban area. When I say 'public transit' I mean at least either a train, metro or bus network. E.g. Birmingham has a bus and train system, but no metro. (The Metro we have is actually one tram line.)

edited 31st Aug '11 4:49:54 AM by Inhopelessguy

ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#29: Aug 31st 2011 at 4:53:16 AM

Okay, if it doesn't need a metro, then areas like Muar town would count as cities, even though it hasn't got that many tall buildings...

So, a city needs to have over 100k population, public transport and higher education facilities to count? Tall buildings aren't a requirement, yes?

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#30: Aug 31st 2011 at 5:19:59 AM

No, tall buildings are not a requirement. If it was that case, we're removing hundreds of European cities.

Just needs to have more than 100k humans, a form of a public transit network, and at least one higher education facility.

edited 31st Aug '11 5:20:43 AM by Inhopelessguy

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#31: Aug 31st 2011 at 6:33:53 AM

[up] The whole public transit thing rules out a lot of American cities, actually. That and the US is pretty big, so there aren't a whole lot of cities that have more than 100k people.

edited 31st Aug '11 6:35:30 AM by DrunkGirlfriend

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#32: Aug 31st 2011 at 6:45:10 AM

Really? How can a city not have at least one bus line?

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#33: Aug 31st 2011 at 7:39:37 AM

I've lived in NYC my entire life, so I do think it has helped to shape my worldview.

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JethroQWalrustitty OG Troper from Finland Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#34: Aug 31st 2011 at 7:40:03 AM

I have a divided view on this. I am mostly a city rabbit, but I have fond feeling for our summer cottage, and the forest. Hell, I'm borderline shamanistic when it comes to trees. Magnificients things, really.

I could far easier live in a city without contact to nature, than in the country with no civillization, though. A sort of suburban life would be nice, having a garden to tend and such.

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Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
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#35: Aug 31st 2011 at 7:42:45 AM

Inhope, LA has no subway.

I think you don't realize that everyone has a car here.

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#36: Aug 31st 2011 at 8:33:42 AM

We have a bus network, and it's everywhere you don't want it to be: in your lane and stopping to pick people up. [lol]

I want to defend Kansas City because I'm fond of it, and I'd be sad to leave it because I'm very comfortable with the pace here, but lord knows we have our faults. [lol] I definitely don't think it's part (not substantial at least) of what makes me.

edited 31st Aug '11 8:34:46 AM by Bur

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Leonshade Since: Jan, 2001
#37: Aug 31st 2011 at 9:02:01 AM

The 100k population requirement rules out some major Finnish cities, so I can't answer this question. Jethro up there lives in Vaasa IIRC, so he's disqualified, too. I'll agree with USAF on the bias thing.

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#38: Aug 31st 2011 at 10:59:31 AM

@Hopelessguy: It's America. Our public transit sucks. The larger cities tend to have okayish transit systems, but the mid-sized cities don't have anything or have seriously inefficient ones. The small towns are screwed.

For example, the nearest metro area for me has a population of 80k (and close to the same population density of several larger cities in the state), and only one bus system that is horribly inefficient. It is quite literally cheaper and faster to take a car than the bus.

edited 31st Aug '11 11:01:19 AM by DrunkGirlfriend

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#39: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:37:32 PM

I see. Well, its kinda wrong for me to... delete the criteria.

I guess you count as long as you live somewhere that has 'city' in its official title, or 'metropolitan' or 'borough' or similar level within your local region. There.

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#40: Aug 31st 2011 at 2:35:29 PM

I wouldn't say that the city is part of who I am, because it's an attribute of small towns to bend you and break you until you fit in with everyone else. In a city where most people don't know most other people, I'm free to choose my own identity.

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Tongpu Since: Jan, 2001
#41: Aug 31st 2011 at 6:21:15 PM

No. In fact, I'm uncomfortable with the idea of being part of something. It seems like too much of a compromise of my identity as an individual.

For the point of this, to count as a city, your urban area must have:

  • +100, 000 population
  • A coherent public transit system
  • At least one university or similar major educational institution
There are whole countries that don't fit these criteria.

And don't worry. You count if you live in a suburb or within 50km (30 mi) of a city.
Why?

fourtwenty Lolicon Black National from The Ghetto Since: Apr, 2011
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#42: Sep 5th 2011 at 12:01:32 PM

Los Angeles has a train system a rapid transit light rail lines. Like five or six.

I live in chicago's south side and yes i have been influenced by living in the south side as opposed to the north side.....I guess.

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ekuseruekuseru 名無しさん from Australia Since: Oct, 2009
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#43: Sep 6th 2011 at 10:37:24 AM

I would say that your definition of a city is kind of loose. Suggestions to clarify it would be economic or cultural significance within the local area and perhaps lifting the population threshold.

I am rather proud of my home city, but I find that I simply don't get along happily without the conveniences, services and benefits offered by a higher-density urban settlement in general terms - that is, I'd be just as happy in any another decent city (ignoring things like family and friends, of course).

edited 6th Sep '11 10:39:29 AM by ekuseruekuseru

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#44: Sep 6th 2011 at 10:50:23 AM

I couldn't imagine not being a Glaswegian. I mean this city does pretty much suck, but being from somewhere else? Couldn't picture it. It's home, it leaves a mark on you. Other places in Scotland are alien and weird - especially Paisley/Johnstone areas. People from that neck of the woods act... differently from Glaswegian people. They look different, they act different, they talk different, they're... profoundly different.

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secretist Maria Holic from Ame no Kisaki Since: Feb, 2010
#45: Sep 6th 2011 at 12:11:15 PM

I live in the Chicago area in Gary. I feel urbanite. Does the population requirement on the central city, the whole area, or the city in which a person lives (if not the central ctiy)?

Yes, city dwelling defines me in contrast to my relatives who live in the South.

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