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boobustuber on a horse from hey what did i just say Since: Apr, 2010
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#1: Aug 28th 2011 at 9:50:16 PM

I have no idea what's going on.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#2: Aug 28th 2011 at 10:11:07 PM

Motion to pull

JAMAAC

I see no way that this can be pictured aside from a lampshade or parody, and I didn't see one of those when skimming through the examples.

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#4: Aug 29th 2011 at 3:13:20 AM

I think it would take the whole strip to get the point across entirely and we can't do that.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#5: Aug 29th 2011 at 8:37:49 AM

Just the last frame. He's lampshading it very clearly: "My original mistakes never attract half the attention my attempts to cover them up do."

Or the last frame of that strip and the last frame of the next one.

edited 29th Aug '11 8:50:21 AM by Madrugada

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#6: Aug 29th 2011 at 8:43:03 PM

[up] That works well enough.

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#7: Oct 4th 2011 at 7:17:01 AM

Bump...any other ideas? I still like Madrugada's suggestion.

exodius Since: Jan, 2011
#8: Oct 5th 2011 at 11:07:46 AM

With the description, the current picture is fine.

Not every trope needs a page-long comic describing what the trope means in detail.

20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#9: Oct 5th 2011 at 11:49:33 AM

[up]Streisand's house is an example, but the picture fails to illustrate a single part of the trope. It's Just A House And A Caption.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#10: Oct 5th 2011 at 12:07:30 PM

^ This. There's nothing about that picture that illustrates the trope. I could go into that page a week from now, and swap out the picture for a photo of any other house of similar size, and only those people who either remembered the picture very well or googled to see what photo the example was talking about would have any idea that it wasn't the right house. The caption is doing all the work.

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petrie911 Since: Aug, 2009
#11: Oct 6th 2011 at 7:47:04 PM

Perhaps so, but it is a preexisting term that is based on that example. Even The Other Wiki thought it a good lead image for their page on it.

Also, we rely far too much on comics as page images. Especially on text-heavy ones that are essentially "trope description adjacent to these pictures".

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#12: Oct 6th 2011 at 7:53:52 PM

The other wiki has different standards for what makes a good lead page image. We don't use their standards for page images any more than we use their notability standards or their NPOV standards.

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#13: Oct 6th 2011 at 8:54:51 PM

I unlocked and moved this back to IP. It is not resolved.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#14: Dec 14th 2011 at 6:13:36 AM

Clock is set. Even if we don't go with Madrugada's suggestion, the current pic still needs to go.

edited 14th Dec '11 6:14:08 AM by Willbyr

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#15: Dec 14th 2011 at 6:23:03 AM

Crowner time?

The current pic needs to be pulled because it's JAHAAC. The comic strip shown earlier in this thread would work as an example, imho.

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peasant Since: Mar, 2011
#16: Dec 14th 2011 at 4:50:50 PM

Here's something to ponder though... the problem with 'Just a Face and a Caption' (even as stated in said article) is that it doesn't sufficiently capture the idea of the trope and that people unfamiliar with the image's source would not understand why it's an example. To quote:

"A common sin of contributors is to let their Fan Myopia get the best of them and put in a pic that just shows off one of their favorite characters with a caption that makes a joke off of how they so totally fit the trope in their show. This will rarely, if ever, do a good job of showing off the trope. Nobody who isn't a fan of the show will get who this character is or how they fit the trope and the caption just won't be funny to them. The point of the page image is to provide a quick, sharp visual representation of the trope for everyone. "

This is not a problem with the current picture - especially with the caption included. The caption explains that Barbara Streisand does not want you to see the image; hence, why it's the image for the trope. From the way it is phrased, there is no way for the reader (even one unfamiliar with the incident) not to understand what's being conveyed.

edited 14th Dec '11 4:52:44 PM by peasant

20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#17: Dec 14th 2011 at 7:19:05 PM

[up]All the information is in the caption. It's JAFAAC so hard it hurts.

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#18: Dec 15th 2011 at 10:10:20 AM

Would a collage of some of the picture people were using to spread the HD-DVD encryption key be viable?

Please.
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#19: Dec 15th 2011 at 11:34:35 AM

If the first picture is some kind of disclaimer like "Warning: It is illegal to distribute this HD-DVD code" or whatever, that might work.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#20: Dec 15th 2011 at 11:40:49 AM

Or maybe a screencap of a news article "(Company) calls for removal HD-DVD code" followed by a montage of it posted in different places.

It's important that we make it clear this is about someone efforts to hide something making it more visible; having a "distributing the code is illegal" is more of a piracy thing rather than an attempt to suppress something that's already out there.

edited 15th Dec '11 11:43:41 AM by JapaneseTeeth

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#21: Dec 24th 2011 at 7:36:50 AM

We need to wrap this up...I don't think there's enough of a consensus to just pull the pic. Should we use Madrugada's suggestion or just close this up and move on?

Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
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#22: Dec 25th 2011 at 8:33:54 PM

The suggestion is infinitely better, in my opinion. So I'd support the replacement.

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#23: Dec 26th 2011 at 2:14:38 AM

The image is a literal representation of the Trope in action by the Trope Namer. It's JAHAAC,but that's all that's needed for the trope page.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#25: Dec 26th 2011 at 3:11:16 AM

I think that means "it's an example—in fact, it's the Trope Namer—it doesn't matter if it's Just A House And A Caption!"

Yes it does.

edited 26th Dec '11 3:22:09 AM by rodneyAnonymous

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