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PhantomCobra Since: Jan, 2010
#1: Aug 26th 2011 at 10:28:04 AM

Quite frankly, I don't see a lot of people using Monty Python references online, and it's even rarer that I hear someone complaining about it. However, "The cake is a lie" seems to get a lot of hate, even from its creators; so, I think a picture referencing how sick people are of that meme would be better.

edited 26th Aug '11 10:34:43 AM by PhantomCobra

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#3: Aug 26th 2011 at 11:51:22 AM

A) We don't use demotivators.

B) The whole point of Discredited Meme is that it's old and tired and is no longer widely used. "The Cake Is a Lie" is, unfortunately, still alive and healthy.

edited 26th Aug '11 11:52:40 AM by Madrugada

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#4: Aug 26th 2011 at 2:41:56 PM

"I don't see a lot of people using Monty Python references online"

That means it IS discredited.

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#6: Aug 26th 2011 at 3:01:45 PM

So, anyway, I am ever-so-slightly on the OP's side. (Though I love a good Monty Python joke). I would consider Monty Python was at one time an overused source of quotes, but is Monty Python a meme? But really, that's splitting hairs.

If there is consensus to change, I'm partial to this:[1]

EDIT: Nevermind. I'm wrong. The picture is fine as it is. Sorry about this. The people responsible for making my posts have been sacked.

edited 26th Aug '11 3:03:30 PM by ArtemisStrong

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#7: Aug 26th 2011 at 3:04:03 PM

We don't want the memes themselves as page images.

edited 26th Aug '11 3:04:27 PM by Madrugada

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#8: Aug 26th 2011 at 3:06:38 PM

I rather liked the old one... I personally never got the whole monty python thing. (but thats just me)

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#9: Aug 26th 2011 at 3:57:39 PM

The problem was trolls trying to cut off the caption as though the meme was still going.

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#10: Aug 26th 2011 at 5:42:01 PM

I'm good with the current pic. Granted, maybe we could change the reference from Monty Python to something a little more current in terms of memes like, say, "LO Lcat emails", but I think the concept is solid.

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#11: Aug 27th 2011 at 8:23:07 AM

I liked the old pic. I don't get the new one either.

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#12: Aug 27th 2011 at 8:35:26 AM

Personally, I like the old one better, with Batman and his threats. Gets the point across.

If the TRS thread on Candle Jack cutlists the page, though, we might not be able to do it because the pothole will be gone.

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#13: Aug 27th 2011 at 10:23:22 AM

That and we still would get trolls screwing with it to pretend the meme is still going.

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PhantomCobra Since: Jan, 2010
#14: Aug 27th 2011 at 12:56:13 PM

Would the pic I posted be better if I cut off the black border and made the "Go ahead. Say 'the cake is a lie' one more time and see what happens." a speech bubble instead?

shark33 Since: Nov, 2010
#15: Aug 27th 2011 at 10:25:52 PM

I like the proposed image becuase it's a demotivational poster, which isn't quite dead but is thousand time less popular as it used to be, and the same can be said about the cake one. But the Batman/CandleJ is also great.

The current picture doesn't have anything that says "dead meme" though.

edited 27th Aug '11 10:26:16 PM by shark33

PhantomCobra Since: Jan, 2010
#16: Aug 27th 2011 at 10:34:30 PM

Alright then, how about using the suggested pic with the following caption.

"This is also the reason tvtropes does not typically allow demotivators to be used as trope images."

edited 27th Aug '11 10:38:17 PM by PhantomCobra

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#17: Aug 27th 2011 at 10:41:28 PM

[up][up]This is NOT "dead" meme, but "meme people want other people to stop doing", which is why there is a swear jar.

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#18: Aug 27th 2011 at 11:26:15 PM

This is NOT "dead" meme, but "meme people want other people to stop doing"

So a meme that hadn't died yet?

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#19: Aug 27th 2011 at 11:44:26 PM

[up] I'm not sure that memes ever completely die, they just fade out as new ones become popular. LO Lcats, for instance, are still going strong even though they're not nearly as prevalent as they used to be.

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#20: Aug 27th 2011 at 11:47:48 PM

[up][up]It's hard to tell what is really dead, but it's easy to see someone in a work declare a meme should be stopped.

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shark33 Since: Nov, 2010
#21: Aug 28th 2011 at 1:47:00 AM

This is NOT "dead" meme, but "meme people want other people to stop doing", which is why there is a swear jar.

Then the description needs to be completely changed since it mentions that it's "any Meme that has fallen out of favor with pop culture", that it could be that it was just forgetten over time, that "some of these memes are Deader Than Disco", and that "this is not about whether the meme was any good or not", while there is no mention of it being a "meme people want other people to stop doing".

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#22: Aug 28th 2011 at 5:31:15 AM

"Fallen out of favor" = "most people don't like to hear about it."

Also Some are deader than disco. Not all.

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#23: Aug 31st 2011 at 11:37:32 AM

The older one doesn't really work though. If Candlejack is a discredited meme, then the whole Batman-is-badass thing is definitely a discredited meme. Despite that fact that technically they're both in use and therefore not actually discredited.

As the new image is both actually truthful and not a badly executed Take That!, it can probably afford to stay.

PhantomCobra Since: Jan, 2010
#24: Sep 1st 2011 at 11:23:11 AM

Wait, by the new one, do you mean the swear jar, or the cake is a lie?

dsneybuf Since: Jul, 2009
#25: Sep 16th 2011 at 3:40:21 PM

I'd like to know if these panels from Mulberry would work. The dialogue and actions seem relevant, but it seems hard to stack them to meet the width limit. Also, this is a relatively old story, so the artwork looks very crude. The panels I refer to include the last one here, and the first four here.

EDIT: I tried making an image of them, but it gave me eye strain. If I tried to vertically stack them, where should the "twack!" go?

edited 17th Sep '11 11:12:48 PM by dsneybuf


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