Can we get a rename on this?: I Dye Grass get usage counts

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Rabid Fujoshi
I would never have found this under the current title, and I think it's pretty opaque. Can we get a rename on this?
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Dragon Writer
...Is it supposed to be a pun? *checks* Whew, thank heavens the trope isn't about the pun.

edited 19th Aug '11 8:03:30 PM by Stratadrake

Rabid Fujoshi
Holy crap, is it supposed to be like "I digress?" Okay, that's just...it's just bad, is what it is.
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4 Madrugada19th Aug 2011 08:02:27 PM , Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Yes, it is. I don't know why, but yes, it is.
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5 DRCEQ19th Aug 2011 08:34:34 PM , Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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Ok, so the trope is about people who can change the seasons. It needs something much more straightforward for a name, or at least a redirect since it has none.
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6 SalFishFin19th Aug 2011 09:05:01 PM from on top of Your Mum , Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Trolling Swordsman
These people are not responsible for changing the seasons, just what happens when the seasons change.
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Rabid Fujoshi
The idea of the trope is that there are nature spirit things that run nature, like moving the sun up and down, manufacturing snowflakes or hanging dew drops.

edited 19th Aug '11 9:11:03 PM by NoirGrimoir

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9 Madrugada19th Aug 2011 09:10:35 PM , Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
No, not "change the seasons". Color or otherwise change the appearance of the outdoors. Jack Frost doesn't change the seasons, he just paints the leaves when the seasons change. The YKTTW is on the discussion page, take a look at it.

edited 19th Aug '11 9:10:57 PM by Madrugada

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Cure Candy
So basically that My Little Pony episode about changing of the seasons and how Pegasui (I think thats right) make the weather?
Rabid Fujoshi
[up]Basically.

edited 19th Aug '11 9:13:15 PM by NoirGrimoir

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12 DRCEQ19th Aug 2011 09:58:24 PM , Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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13 Servbot19th Aug 2011 10:05:11 PM , Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Needs to be more general, I think.

Nature Is My Job? We Handle Nature? Fantastic Explanations For Nature? We Make Nature Work?

edited 19th Aug '11 10:07:13 PM by Servbot

14 Madrugada19th Aug 2011 10:11:26 PM , Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
No, it does not need to be made more general. Please read the YKTTW; it's linked on the discussion page.

And I'll quote it here to make it even easier:

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Ever wonder why the leaves turn colour in fall, or why frost appears on the window during the wintertime? Well, it's not due to any sort of scientific process. Usually appearing in mythology or children's entertainment, this is a character who is responsible for the beautiful colours and patterns we see in nature. The leaves? There's some guy going around and painting them one by one. The frost? Someone such as Jack Frost draws it on people's windows. A character of this trope is usually depicted as an artist; his or her medium just happens to be nature.

Title is a pun on the phrase "I digress." Said personifications are not necessarily also evil and also into cats.

Can be a subset of The Fair Folk or Anthropomorphic Personification. "

There is nothing wrong with the trope itself. The name is horrible but the trope itself is not broken It does not need to be changed.
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15 Servbot19th Aug 2011 10:19:50 PM , Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
I meant the names that DRCEQ was suggesting (since all of DRCEQ's names were focused on weather alone when this would include things like "Why do leaves change color in autumn?"), not the trope itself. Sorry for the confusion.

edited 19th Aug '11 10:20:39 PM by Servbot

16 Deboss19th Aug 2011 10:26:44 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Rabid Fujoshi
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18 Madrugada19th Aug 2011 11:07:52 PM , Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
I apologize, Servbot. I was overly hungry and angry about something else entirely. But that's an excuse, not a good reason.
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I like the name because it makes me specifically think of the sort of creature who draws the frost on the windows or paints the autumn leaves brown.

I find it clear, I find it concise and...ok not witty but it makes me snirk a laugh.

No-one has painted a very good job of what they find wrong with it. I've got that it's "opaque" but this thread also spent half its time getting the trope wrong. Contrast that with the YKTTW which made the trope and which had people loving the name.

Don't just tell us the facts; tell us the memes, tell us the archetypes, tell us the catchy ideas and symbolic roles that get planted in pe
Rabid Fujoshi
[up]How does "I Dye Grass" even remotely let you know what this trope is about? Presumably it's about a character that...dyes grass? I mean, what the heck even is that? how do you get from that to nature spirits that make the world work? Grass doesn't even change color, so that in itself makes no sense! I had no idea what the name meant, and I doubt anyone else would without clicking on it. And I don't find the the pun amusing at all, either. I didn't even realize it was a pun at first.
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Cure Candy
I Dye Grass reminds me of a Golf Course in which they do dye the grass. (not related to this trope)
22 Xtifr20th Aug 2011 01:22:38 AM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
I Dye Grass found in: 31 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 69 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

Mediocre performance, but far from terrible, especially considering it's probably not the world's most common trope. I'd toss on some good redirects, then take another look in 6 months or so.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
Sprite Artist? Probably a better pun, but probably even less transparent.

Unrelated to the name does "why the leaves turn color in fall" make sense in American English? Because I would say change instead of turn (or turn red/brown/gold instead of turn color), but I'm not sure because I'd also use a different word for fall and a different spelling for color.
24 Xtifr20th Aug 2011 02:08:33 AM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
[up]"turn colors" (plural) is the usual idiom, I believe.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
25 Madrugada20th Aug 2011 02:28:59 AM , Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
"Turn", meaning "change" is an American idiom.
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Alternative Titles: I Dye Grass
17th Sep '11 2:47:38 PM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
At issue:
Previous crowner showed consensus support for a rename.

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