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So. Personal opinions on the main wiki aren't allowed, be they gushing or bashing. Now, bashing gets tolerated even less than gushing, and that makes sense; it leads to more flamewars.

But that doesn't mean we have to live with all the gushing either. This thread can serve as a center for keeping it in check. One function might be to alert people to pages that are really heavy in gushing, to the point that it's not just a quick fix and will need some assistance.

harryhenry It's either real or it's a dream Since: Jan, 2012
It's either real or it's a dream
#151: May 10th 2014 at 9:19:39 AM

The Main and YMMV pages for Speed Racer are really gushy.

tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#152: May 11th 2014 at 8:53:38 AM

Gushing on the YMMV page is fine, isn't it?

harryhenry It's either real or it's a dream Since: Jan, 2012
It's either real or it's a dream
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#154: May 12th 2014 at 4:12:34 AM

YMMV pages can gush some, but it still needs to be reasonable and subdued...the Sugar Wiki pages are where it's more proper to gush. Gushing needs to be kept off the actual pages whenever possible.

edited 12th May '14 4:13:05 AM by Willbyr

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#155: May 12th 2014 at 6:19:00 AM

YMMV pages should state facts about opinions. That means to keep off the blatant gushing just as much as we'd keep off blatant complaining.

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GingerSnaps Tired forever. Since: Mar, 2011
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#156: May 22nd 2014 at 3:57:57 AM

Hot Fuzz might need a bit of cleanup.

What is this "sleep" you speak of?
Umbee Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#157: Jun 2nd 2014 at 1:52:06 PM

Porn with Plot is really gushy, about both the porn and the plots.

Taking steps to abandon this handle.
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#158: Nov 2nd 2014 at 12:57:52 PM

Rockman 4 Minus ∞ is way too gushy and has no substance to it. When your description starts off by putting down other similar works for not going to the lenghts your work does, you're doing something wrong. Even the quote is gushy, and a comment by some dude on youtube even.

I tried to purge the gushing, but I just ended up with a description that names the basic elements that were added to the ROM Hack (New level designs, bosses, features, weapons, music, enemies from previous titles... basically, stuff you expect a big ROM Hack would do) and nothing else. Is anyone here familiar with the game here, to make a better, non-gushy description?

edited 2nd Nov '14 12:58:30 PM by Elbruno

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SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#159: Nov 10th 2014 at 2:46:17 PM

So, uh, Troperiffic has about the gushiest example list I've ever seen. I removed what was probably the only bit of complaining on the entire list, but beyond that I'm at a loss. Thought I'd put it here.

NothingUnusualHere from Canadia Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
#160: Dec 20th 2014 at 8:17:30 AM

[up][up] I tried to rewrite the description for Rockman 4 Minus Infinity. I mostly just cut out the putdowns towards other ROM hacks and reworded some stuff. Kept the You Tube quote though.

The works page for Demon Of The Underground, in addition to being poorly formatted, is also extremely gushing. There's a paragraph in the description devoted to saying how incredibly deep the main character is, and not-at-all like those other typical characters. I fixed the formatting issues but not the gushing- I'm not sure whether to delete the last two paragraphs or try to reword them.

I did fix gushing for works by ThatPersonYouMightKnow. Most of his works were being edited by a single troper, who was a huge fan of the guy. I cleaned up work page descriptions and did some trope page work too. I'd want to keep a close eye on these pages though.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#161: Sep 9th 2015 at 1:33:38 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's a bit of gushing all over the place in Awesome.Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney. A lot of those, if they should be listed elsewhere, seems better suited for And The Fandom Rejoiced instead.

Sure, it's an Awesome subpage, but shouldn't there be some restraint?

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YasminPerry Since: May, 2015
#162: Nov 14th 2015 at 4:54:04 PM

Genre-Busting seems far too positive to me; almost a Sugar Wiki page in the main page. Some of the examples are questionable, too - is Sailor Moon really genre-busting? It always seemed like just your average Magical Girl show to me. Back To The Future also isn't really genre-busting, sure it has Period Piece-like elements, but it's mostly a Sci-Fi film.

edited 14th Nov '15 4:54:25 PM by YasminPerry

MyTimingIsOff Since: Dec, 2011
#163: Nov 24th 2015 at 8:11:33 PM

[up]There's nothing inherently gushy about Genre-Busting; not really sure why you got that impression. The issues you mentioned sound more like shoehorning than gushing. Removing Square Peg Round Trope is a free action; if you see an example that doesn't fit, get rid of it.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#164: Dec 27th 2015 at 4:59:43 AM

It seems part of every third entry in No Flow in CGI is either gushing about aversions or complaining about straight examples.

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#165: Jan 25th 2016 at 6:42:25 PM

I've toned down the gushing on Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

edited 25th Jan '16 6:49:45 PM by Karxrida

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#166: Mar 19th 2016 at 1:26:30 AM

FLCL needs some toning down on its brilliance.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#167: Mar 24th 2016 at 7:39:40 PM

Going to tone down the praise on Franchise.Kingdom Hearts.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#168: Apr 16th 2016 at 8:25:35 PM

Animaniacs has a bunch of gushing in the description. Going to tone it down.

edited 16th Apr '16 8:25:44 PM by Karxrida

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
WhatArtThee Since: Oct, 2015
#169: May 1st 2016 at 3:03:30 PM

All In The Family has a LOT of gushing. Going to remove it.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#170: Aug 23rd 2016 at 1:37:41 PM

Friends needs a rewrite since it's too focused on praising the show. Will get on that later.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#171: Aug 24th 2016 at 11:17:17 PM

So I went to rewrite Friends and realized I wasn't really qualified due to not being knowledgeable enough about it (despite having seen several episodes) to make a decent synopsis to replace the gushing.

I did, however, remove a line on Chekhov's Gunman that was randomly giving praise to the writer of Fairy Tale.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
#172: Nov 12th 2016 at 9:23:54 PM

I found this example from YMMV.Dr No. It reads like a positive Complete Monster entry, in this case gushing about a villainous character.

Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
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#173: Nov 14th 2016 at 1:19:22 PM

Here is my suggested rewrite for Friends. I'm not sure how to sum up its type of humour, or what made it stand out.

A Roommate Com that ran on NBC from 1994 to 2004, centering on a circle of twenty-something (and by the end, thirty-something) Manhattan singles. A light-hearted show, most of the jokes involved some problem or misunderstanding involving sex, work, money, family or personal quirks.

Its most iconic location was the "Central Perk" bar (a joke on New York's Central Park), though most of it took place in two studio-built apartments, and it was filmed in California. It featured dozens of guest stars, including big names like Charlton Heston.

While each episode is mostly self-contained, it was among the first prime-time comedies with an evolving status quo. Most of the cast went through several jobs, all went through plenty of love interests, and two became parents. It was also more open about sex, including gay relations, that was usual when it first aired. Alongside Seinfeld and Sex and the City, it reshaped American romcoms in The '90s. It also spawned a short-lived spin-off, Joey.

It also has an Idiosyncratic Episode Naming in which episode but "The Pilot" starts with "The One With…" or "The One Where…", pre-empting what viewers would likely call them.

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#174: Oct 23rd 2017 at 1:47:36 PM

I trimmed the entry for Lunar of gushing. It could help If anyone more familiar with the games were to go over it.

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
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#175: Jan 31st 2018 at 5:10:36 PM

Funny.RWBY Chibi contains basically every moment in the entire series. Like, I get that the Moments pages are actually about gushing, but this is ridiculous.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.

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