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I think he wants to let the States decide.

I'm not sure though.
177 joeyjojo16th Jan 2012 06:40:27 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
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So judging from the amount of media press this guy has been getting you would think he was a shoe in for president.
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178 AceofSpades16th Jan 2012 06:42:44 PM from The Wild Blue Yonder , Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Not really; he gets what air time he does because he's controversial, and he doesn't really seem to be getting a lot of that.

There's a middling chance of him running on the Libertarian ticket if he fails to get the Republican nomination, though.
179 joeyjojo16th Jan 2012 06:48:55 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
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Just how far does the 'state's rights' stance fly with people in the states any way?
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Depends on the state, honestly. In Kansas, where I am currently residing, it's seen as kinda important, and I'd say that throughout the South it's seen as important as well, but in northern states and those that trend blue, I don't really see it as all that important at all.

edited 16th Jan '12 7:18:24 PM by Malgus

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181 AceofSpades16th Jan 2012 06:54:02 PM from The Wild Blue Yonder , Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Not very far with me, but mostly it depends on the issue being discussed. Like, apparently there are people who think the states should be able to make their own little versions of foreign policy, especially as regards deporting illegal Mexicans. That... has not gone down well, considering how discriminatory that is. That is definitely something that we need to be uniform, because it involves dealing with external forces rather than just internal issues.

As far as determining gay marriage rights; well, we probably wouldn't have that being legal anywhere if we left it up to federal regulation. Not because people aren't for it, but because the Religious Right currently has a lot of pull at the federal level, and leaving that to the states has allowed marriage and civil unions to be legalized in some states.

It's... a mixed blessing, to say the least, and you'll get wildly different answers from different people.
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[up] Way, way better way of putting it.
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183 joeyjojo16th Jan 2012 07:10:35 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
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So what is the marriage issue at the moment? it's decided by the state right? Does going to vegas to get a quick divorce still hold?
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184 AceofSpades16th Jan 2012 07:14:46 PM from The Wild Blue Yonder , Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Yeah, marriage is currently decided by state. That's what I just said. As for gays getting a divorce, that presumes Nevada recognizes gay marriage in the first place, which I don't think it does. In spite of Las Vegas, Nevada is a very conservative state.
185 joeyjojo16th Jan 2012 07:16:18 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
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186 Ramidel16th Jan 2012 09:03:29 PM , Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Correction on marriage:

  • States decide what they want to allow regarding marriage.
  • The federal government decides what it wants to count regarding marriage (important re: tax laws), which is currently one man, one woman.
  • There has not been a test case yet (AFAIK) to determine whether one state has to recognize a gay marriage performed in another state (under the Constitution, states are obliged to do so, but presently most don't).

edited 16th Jan '12 9:03:40 PM by Ramidel

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