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SlowTeddy Baby! from Here Since: Aug, 2011
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#1: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:12:06 PM

From what I have seen all animes are animated in Japan. Why is this? Why dont animes outsource animation like we do? We get studios from places like Korea and even Japan to do some animation for our shows. Its not like it would hurt anything.

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#2: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:14:17 PM

...I'm pretty sure they do outsource.

Next time you watch something, check the credits carefully. There's usually some Korean names listed among the animators.

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#3: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:17:12 PM

I can (sadly) say with confidence that there are a lot of people who wouldn't call them anime if they outsourced too much to outside of Japan.

edited 14th Aug '11 7:19:50 PM by burnpsy

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#4: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:17:22 PM

They do. Spice And Wolf, for example. Where did you get the impression that they didn't?

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#5: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:18:08 PM

They do outsource, just as much as American animation. They outsource not only to South Korea, in fact, but to other Japanese animation studios.

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#6: Aug 14th 2011 at 7:19:46 PM

Yeah Naruto and Family Guy are mostly animated in South Korea.

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#8: Aug 14th 2011 at 9:42:56 PM

Think about it: Are there many places in the West that can take outsourced animation work for less than an Asian company? Russia's about the only Western country left that can do it cheap and they don't exactly have as good a reputation.

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#9: Aug 14th 2011 at 9:51:45 PM

Besides, they do outsource.

And if you really think it's true animation based on location, then I have some shocking news: Batman TAS is anime, as large portions were farmed out to Sunrise.

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#10: Aug 14th 2011 at 9:57:07 PM

Outsourcing reduces quality. I still remember a lot of anime that was ruined because of it.

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#11: Aug 15th 2011 at 12:06:46 AM

Actually Japanese studios don't really outsource as much as American or European studios. Guy Delisle supervised some show in China, of which western studio didn't even draw layouts. I can't think of any Japanese animated movies, where all the animation was outsourced somewhere else, like for example Rankin/Bass movies and Batman: Mask of the Phantasm.

Usually at least the key animation is drawn by the Japanese. In Japan it has been been common since the 60s to outsource inbetween drawings to other Japanese studios.

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#12: Aug 15th 2011 at 1:00:14 AM

I don't know how much they do it (I think they do it less than western companies), but I'm pretty sure that the do outsource. And I'm not alone on that apparently.

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#13: Aug 15th 2011 at 1:20:02 AM

Besides, Toei Animation has a Philippine office. And it's celebrating its 25th anniversary later this year.

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#14: Aug 15th 2011 at 1:21:59 AM

Becaue it's cheaper to have stuff animated in Korea or the Philippines or Vietnam than in apan.

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#15: Aug 15th 2011 at 1:26:22 AM

[up][up]W8... Toei has an office HERE!?!

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#16: Aug 15th 2011 at 2:08:42 AM

Most "Japanese" anime is animated in Korea these days, actually. It has been for quite a few years now.

It's cheaper that way. American did the same thing to Japan in the 80's and early 90's with most of our "cartoons".

edited 15th Aug '11 2:16:58 AM by Vyctorian

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#17: Aug 15th 2011 at 2:10:53 AM

[up][up] Yeah, I heard some anime outsource their animations in the Philippines.

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#18: Aug 15th 2011 at 2:59:35 AM

Vyctorian: You must mean in-between animation.

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#19: Aug 15th 2011 at 3:42:12 AM

[up]No, the majority is done in Korea theses days. The in-between animation is prolly whats done in Japan these days, like I said it's cheaper, and in Japan anime has gotten more and more expensive and is bringing in less and less money over in Japan. It's selling alright in the west but they can't sustain themselves off an investment thats a year away in most cases for western release, the trade off is giving a lesser known small korean, vit. phili. studio the material to do the work for you.

edited 15th Aug '11 3:45:16 AM by Vyctorian

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#20: Aug 15th 2011 at 3:45:00 AM

Yup, we Koreans practically sustain the entire anime industry. cool

edited 15th Aug '11 3:45:13 AM by dRoy

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#21: Aug 15th 2011 at 4:02:09 AM

You'd think the Korean animation studios might be upset that the modern animation industry is built upon their backs, but from what (admittedly little) I've heard they quite like what they do.

edited 15th Aug '11 4:02:24 AM by Sporkaganza

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#22: Aug 15th 2011 at 4:11:20 AM

Maybe I've just been watching the wrong series and the Japanese tv series actually credit individual animators, unlike most American series. One thing I'm of is that, if a Japanese studio has to decide between outsourcing keys or in-betweens, I'm pretty sure the aforementioned ones are the ones to be done in house, because they dictate the in-betweens.

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#23: Aug 15th 2011 at 4:16:28 AM

[up] Yup, that's a sad reality as well. Animating stuff is no different from manual labor if you can't put any creative input in it. In fact, you might as well work as a construction site worker and have a higher quality of life.

(sighs) It has been a LOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time since the last time we actually created something completely with our own input.

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#24: Aug 15th 2011 at 7:12:13 PM
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#25: Aug 15th 2011 at 7:20:46 PM
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