Not working as an index: This Index Is Not An Example

Can this even work as one? It relies too heavily on links to other articles and the like.

Indexes are evaluated on whether they contain tropes that are conceptually related, not so much on whether they have a lead paragraph and/or how long the list of tropes is.

Work as what? An index? Sure, why wouldn't it?

It indexes tropes that are named for something that isn't actually an example of the trope. That's all. It works.

edited 14th Aug '11 8:01:47 AM by Madrugada

Huh, I don't have any problems with this as an index, but skimming it, it seems like a lot of the entries have, at best, a purely theoretical connection with the supposed trope namer. Big Ol' Eyebrows is a pretty generic English phrase, for example. The fact that someone pointed to Homestar Runner and said "this is where it comes from" seems more like trivia, even if it might happen to be true.

Some of the examples obviously fit, though, like All of the Other Reindeer. I don't think anybody would question what the trope namer is in that case. But Big Ol' Eyebrows is a phrase that must have appeared in hundreds of works, some of them probably antedating HSR by decades.

The op's question has been answered. Does this lock now?

I'm not too fond of this. Yes, I started it, but it turned out to be subjective with many of the entries. And I think a number of tropes listed aren't actually exact.

I think it could use a good culling. How many of those are actually Trope Namers, rather than simply being works that happened to use the trope name somewhere along the way?

^ Isn't the current Trope Namer definition twofold? 1) trope is an explicit reference to the work, or 2) the work coined the term.

(Note that #2 is specifically "coined" the term, not simply "used" the term.)

" A series usually gets to name a trope if it's so widely known for the trope (even outside the circle of nerds) it's basically an icon of it, or if it has a term for the situation that is simply Made Of Win. Or if it happens to be the Trope Maker, too."

This isn't trope namers though.

Bumping. Is there anything to actually do here?

BTW, to clarify my old thought of "how is this an index of related concepts?", the only conceptual relation between any of these tropes is that their namers are not actually examples of the trope. The articles' underlying definitions are not conceptually related to each other; they are only related on a meta level.

edited 7th Dec '11 8:26:08 AM by Stratadrake

Bump. So, what? Lock this?

I disagree on the part about this being a valuable index listing, but that's it.

I don't see much of a value anymore either. It's trivia at best.

It is a VERY valuable index, PRECISELY because this is a meta index. This page is important since it shows how a trope can be established from some source while not being there. Therefore it is a very valid (meta)index

With so many different opinions we should probably get a crowner in here.

I can support it being merely a list. But an index? Nope.

It's useful as a shopping list for TRS...

Not quite. I do agree that many tropes that are (or have been) listed on the page have (had) terrible names, but that's an issue I'd treat on a case-by-case basis.

Most of the tropes on the list are perfectly fine, and, be it an index or not, I do find the premise of the page rather interesting.

edited 26th Feb '12 5:59:59 PM by SeanMurrayI

Clocking due to inactivity.