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Diamonnes In Riastrad from Ulster Since: Nov, 2009
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#51: Aug 14th 2011 at 10:51:17 AM

Answer: Transhumanism.

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eX 94. Grandmaster of Shark Since: Jan, 2001
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#52: Aug 14th 2011 at 11:05:23 AM

relic: You are right, but I get annoyed when people try to shut down an interesting discussion with oversimplified arguments.

edited 14th Aug '11 11:43:27 AM by eX

Ratix from Someplace, Maryland Since: Sep, 2010
#53: Aug 14th 2011 at 12:21:23 PM

Just to weigh in on anarchy's tendency to quickly rise up into government... Somalia has had no central government for 20 years now. So there is at least some precedence on an extended anarchy.

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#54: Aug 14th 2011 at 1:06:12 PM

[up] They also have to constantly kill each other to sustain it, as I said.

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Ratix from Someplace, Maryland Since: Sep, 2010
#55: Aug 14th 2011 at 3:08:48 PM

As a result of a dividing civil war. Hence my conjecture that it would require a deliberate peaceful founding to have a chance of remaining stable. At the very least, it shows how long the international community is willing to let an anarchistic state lie, even a violent one.

LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#56: Aug 14th 2011 at 5:15:02 PM

I thought Somalia was more of a 'warlord' situation than anarchy. The only difference is, now the guys with the biggest guns are bossing everybody around instead of the governemnt.

And I agree with USAF. The vast majority of people are going to want a governing body of some sort, because they know that without one the physically weak of society will die. So they're going to start electing people or whatever as soon as possible. How would anarchists stop them from doing that?

edited 14th Aug '11 5:15:14 PM by LoniJay

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Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#57: Aug 14th 2011 at 6:30:27 PM

[up]Yeah, that stepped up from anarchy a while ago.

edited 14th Aug '11 6:30:32 PM by Kino

Karmakin Moar and Moar and Moar Since: Aug, 2009
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#58: Aug 14th 2011 at 8:08:24 PM

The corporations would hire private police forces to beat up the protestors/activists? That's what happened in the past.

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#59: Aug 15th 2011 at 12:57:05 AM

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PhilippeO Since: Oct, 2010
#60: Aug 16th 2011 at 12:44:45 AM

There are several long-term anarchy societies actually :

Icelandic Commonwealth 930–1262 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_Commonwealth

The medieval Icelandic state had an unusual structure. At the national level, the Althing was both court and legislature; there was no king or other central executive power. Iceland was divided into numerous goðorð (plural same as singular), which were essentially clans or alliances run by chieftains called goðar (singular goði). The chieftains provided for defense and appointed judges to resolve disputes between goðorð members. The goðorð were not strictly geographical districts. Instead, membership in a goðorð was an individual's decision, and one could, at least theoretically, change goðorð at will. However, no group of lesser men could elect or declare someone a goði. The position was the property of the goði; and could be bought, sold, borrowed, and inherited.

Xeer in Somalia 7th century - 19th century http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeer

Every Somali has his own judge, appointed at birth, who will sit on the court that will judge him. That judge is his oday, the head of his extended family consisting of all males descended from the same great grandfather, together with their spouses and children.

The oday, or judge, is chosen carefully, following weeks or months of deliberation by elders of the clan. He has no authority over the family but is chosen solely for his knowledge of human affairs and his wisdom, and he can lose his position if his decisions are not highly regarded in the community.

A virtue of each person knowing from birth who will be one of his judges, and vice versa, is that an oday knows each person in his extended family intimately and can observe and counsel him before what might seem to be a small problem escalates into a crime.

How much there are actually no government is questionable. Iceland has althing. and in both society family and clan ties is strong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy#Ungoverned_communities

tyler775 Since: Sep, 2018
#61: Feb 4th 2023 at 5:09:24 PM

Anarchism has been in many societies that have existed for years! People need to stop acting like anarchism has not been done successfully already:

The people of FEJUVE or The Federation of Neighborhood Councils-El Alto. Back in 2008, FEJUVE was estimated to have a population of 114,000 and the community has been around since 1979, so it has lasted for forty-three years and still exists to this day. FEJUVE is a participatory democracy based around having over six hundred neighborhood councils to provide public services and jobs. Each council has at least 200 members with their own leadership committees that hold monthly neighborhood assemblies similar to town meetings. The whole thing has an informal anarcho-mutualist economy self-managed by city workers and small trader/sole proprietorships as described by Emily Achtenberg in the book Community Organizing, Rebellion, and the Progressive State: Neighborhood Councils in El Alto, Bolivia.

Rebel Zapatista Autonomous Municipalities has been around since January 1994. This anarchist territory exists in the Chiapas region of Mexico which has a population of close to 363,000 people. It is still around to this day, follows an economy of worker cooperatives according to the book Resistencia Autónoma: Cuaderno de texto de primer grado del curso de "La Libertad según l@s Zapatistas", runs on a libertarian socialist consensus democracy, and currently fights against the Mexican government and various drug cartels in a conflict known as the Chiapas conflict.

The Sarvodaya Shramadana Movement has been around in Sri Lanka since 1958 according to the book The Impossible Community: Realising Communitarian Anarchism. by John Clarke. It has been around for over 63 years and the movement is active in 15,000 villages in Sri Lanka. It follows Buddhist anarchism and Gandhism (ideas inspired by M.K. Gandhi).

Freetown Christiania is an anarchist community practicing agorism: a form of market anarchism invented by Samuel Edward Konkin III. It is located in the borough of Christianshavn in the Danish capital city of Copenhagen which has been around since 1971 and offers cannabis and other 'soft drugs' to visitors.

Also, not all anarchists believe in having 'no government' whatsoever. Some anarchists like anarcho-syndicalist Noam Chomsky and Peter Marshall support a night-watchman state: a state that does not have a monopoly on violence and meets the minimum requirement set by John Locke in his book Two Treatises of Government to be considered a government. So an anarchist can be someone who wants a volunteer-based government without a monopoly on violence based on , a general horizontal hierarchy (an organizational structure with few or no levels of middle management between the average person and those in charge) instead of just hoping everyone will follow all the rules and no one will ever do anything bad ever.

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#62: Feb 4th 2023 at 6:16:36 PM

As this thread is 10+ years old and the above post doesn't contribute anything new to the subject, I'll lock this thread. General discussion about anarchy can be had in the General Politics thread. Locking.

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