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helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#26: Aug 11th 2011 at 8:47:41 PM

Essentially, she has most of the trappings of a Libby (or Alpha Bitch, as we call her now), but she is a protagonist, not an antagonist—although it's not exactly necessary that she be a part of the main cast.

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#28: Aug 11th 2011 at 11:23:29 PM

I read it as a subversion of The Libby. The character is set up to fit that archetype, but turns out to be a sympathetic character after all.

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#29: Aug 12th 2011 at 1:13:32 AM

I thought this is more The Alpha Bitch with a reveal that she is a Tsundere or Character Development out of it. (I wouldn't mind expanding it to include Rich Bitch and The Ojou types)

The armor is cracking off The Alpha Bitch Facade.

edited 12th Aug '11 1:17:12 AM by Raso

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#30: Aug 12th 2011 at 4:12:03 AM

^^ If it's a sufficiently common subversion, it could still be a trope.

A character type can't be the same as a subversion, anyway, unless it's specifically about a character changing over time, which this isn't. Subversions are in the presentation. A Lovable Libby only qualifies as a subversion of Alpha Bitch if she's introduced in a negative light.

edited 12th Aug '11 4:15:00 AM by BobbyG

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#31: Aug 12th 2011 at 5:44:26 AM

I also like Affable Alpha Bitch

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StarryEyed Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: If you like it, then you shoulda put a ring on it
#32: Aug 12th 2011 at 3:16:31 PM

Affable Alpha Bitch sounds like Affably Evil, though. It makes it sound like it's about an Alpha Bitch who is friendly and fun —all while being every bit as conniving and nasty as a traditional Libby.

LiberatedLiberater 奇跡の魔女 from [DATA EXPUNGED] Since: Jun, 2011
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#34: Aug 27th 2011 at 12:27:54 PM

I like Alpha Bitch With A Heart Of Gold, which someone mentioned early on and I added to the crowner. The laconic even defines the trope as "Alpha Bitch with a heart of gold".

edited 27th Aug '11 12:29:36 PM by ading

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LiberatedLiberater 奇跡の魔女 from [DATA EXPUNGED] Since: Jun, 2011
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#35: Sep 10th 2011 at 5:47:53 PM

Bump. It's been two weeks.

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#36: Sep 15th 2011 at 6:22:09 PM

Loveable Snob? That sprung to my mind when I first saw the topic...

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#37: Sep 21st 2011 at 4:29:17 PM

Lovable Snob has the same problem as Bitch With A Heart Of Gold: It doesn't specify that the character must be popular.

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#38: Sep 22nd 2011 at 8:47:36 PM

And a potential problem with Alpha Bitch With A Heart Of Gold/Bitch With A Heart Of Gold is that Bitch With A Heart Of Gold is a redirect to Jerk with a Heart of Gold, so renaming Lovable Libby to one of those seems like inviting confusion.

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#39: Sep 22nd 2011 at 9:07:52 PM

Current standings: +10 (yeas:23 nays:13) 1.77 : 1 for Lovable Alpha Bitch, +2 for "ignore this option", everything else is red.

This has been open for a while, I suspect it's not seeing much activity. We'll see if the bump has had any effect by tomorrow.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#40: Sep 22nd 2011 at 10:31:25 PM

That seems stable enough to me. You don't need 2:1 for this kind of crowner anyway.

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#41: Sep 24th 2011 at 4:19:16 PM

Lovable Alpha Bitch has picked up two more yeas, no new nays. Can we call this yet?

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#42: Sep 24th 2011 at 4:20:06 PM

Calling. Make the swap.

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#43: Sep 26th 2011 at 11:16:35 PM

I created the Lovable Alpha Bitch page and copied all the stuff from Lovable Libby over. If anyone wants to help me replace the wicks, that would be much appreciated.

Falco Since: Mar, 2011
#44: Sep 26th 2011 at 11:41:02 PM

Working my way up from the bottom. Switching over The Libby links as well.

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MangaManiac Since: Aug, 2010
#45: Sep 27th 2011 at 2:26:32 AM

Lovable Libby is now a redirect to Lovable Alpha Bitch.

Any wick-fixing is probably more suited to Special Efforts, this thread can probably be locked.

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#46: Sep 27th 2011 at 2:47:50 AM

There's only like 130 wicks left, hardly enough to justify a special efforts thread. This can stay open till the cleanup is done. It shouldn't take long.

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Falco Since: Mar, 2011
#47: Sep 27th 2011 at 2:49:54 AM

Yes, shouldn't take very long.

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#48: Sep 27th 2011 at 9:24:30 PM

All wicks changed. Requesting thread to be locked.

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AlternativeTitles: LovableLibby
13th Aug '11 3:26:33 AM

Crown Description:

Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.

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